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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Why should it be said in private?
Are we as a sport really so insecure that we can't take constructive criticism of an aspect of the game from our own? The best way to make the game's administrators take note of their ted decisions is too make them uncomfortable.'"
The game looks amature enough at times without one if it's own slamming it at an important time.
I get what your saying about trying to get things done by getting certain things out in the open but it's just not the time imo.
I'd have personally thought the St Helens players had more pressing issues then who's deserving of a play off spot but hey ho.I expect these comments could fire 1 or 2 of Saints potential play off opponents up which is something I have no problem with.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
I'd have personally thought the St Helens players had more pressing issues then who's deserving of a play off spot but hey ho.I expect these comments could fire 1 or 2 of Saints potential play off opponents up which is something I have no problem with.'"
One player is certainly fired up, unfortunately he seems to have directed his fire at the wrong target.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"I'm a bit of a traditionalist so I agree with him. Not even second place should have a chance of being crowned champions IMO. But for this to happen we have to scrap the extra fixtures and everyone should play each other twice. Whoever comes top over the course of a season deserves the title of champions not someone who can win a one-off competition through being in good form for 4-5 weeks.
The play-offs are a glorified version of the old premiership. Always held that opinion and always will.'"
You'll be as drunk and ecstatic as me though if we win it
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I can understand what you're saying, but actually prior to 1972-1973 we had a top 16 championship playoff system and a 30 team league lol, so we're going back to our roots if anything
Mind you 4 tackles and a scrum instead of handover?'"
Yeah I'm aware of that but I'm only 24 so when I talk of tradition I mean my tradition
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| The last time they had a 16 team play off system in 1973 a "Stevo" captained Dewsbury side won the league from 8th!
It was so daft that last year (when they relegated the bottom 14 of 30 teams to a new Division 2) Wigan managed to finish 16th only just avoiding relegation on points difference - yet still qualified for the play offs!
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| Quote ="Bilko"The last time they had a 16 team play off system in 1973 a "Stevo" captained Dewsbury side won the league from 8th!
It was so daft that last year (when they relegated the bottom 14 of 30 teams to a new Division 2) Wigan managed to finish 16th only just avoiding relegation on points difference - yet still qualified for the play offs!
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Maybe this is the direction the RFL want to pursue, could be top 10 next season.....a new concept of onwards and downwards.
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| Quote ="Bilko"The last time they had a 16 team play off system in 1973 a "Stevo" captained Dewsbury side won the league from 8th!
It was so daft that last year (when they relegated the bottom 14 of 30 teams to a new Division 2) Wigan managed to finish 16th only just avoiding relegation on points difference - yet still qualified for the play offs!
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If my memory seves me correctly that is also the year that Warrington last won the league.
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| He knows the rules so he should get on with it or play a differant game.
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| There is now a four page thread on what Wilkin said. That's one hell of an influence he has there!
You've clearly all not read Peacock's version of events. He knocks the club call idea.
If people want a positive spin on everything, I suggest they work for Sky. However, if people want to debate the issues around rugby league then read Jon's articles as invariably they create discussion.
Personally, I prefer players in the media who are not a$$ kissers but who provide an honest opinion even when it is controversial. Sometimes I'll agree, sometimes I won't. But why do people want players simply to be mouthpieces for the establishment POV? Seems daft to me.
You may criticise James Graham for what he said prior to the Magic weekend - and plenty of Saints fans did the same - but James Graham also publically said on the BBC last season after the CC semi final, played in over 80 degree heat, that better care should be taken of players, they shouldn't have to play in that kind of heat without water breaks, etc. Did he have a valid point then or was he just whinging? Personally, I thought he was spot on. I was at that match and it was very hot for the speccies never mind the players. Not that officials have taken much notice but it was good that he said what he did IMO as it brought attention to a lack of care.
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| Quote ="leg_end"If my memory seves me correctly that is also the year that Warrington last won the league.'"
Topped the league yeah. I did hear goal kicking cost them in the play offs though
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| a senior player has spoke his mind and stated what many fans are thinking and he gets shot down!
hypocrites.....
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| Quote ="chris_joynt's_barber"a senior player has spoke his mind and stated what many fans are thinking and he gets shot down!
hypocrites.....'"
The same senior player speaks his mind.....
again.....
and again........
and again........
and again........
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