Speculation is great, and we all have opinions. Amongst the poorly informed posts this guy has actually seen him play regularly. Don't forget Chubb scored three in one game for England before his career stagnated.

KF , comments on Sarge?

Over the last 2 years most of the players signed have proved many wrong including me. Especially the Welsh props and the 6 and 7 combination we now have.

The club structure turns average players into good one and good ones into great ones. They will improve with us or a hungry 19 year old will take their spot. One small note though i will not judge them on their performances for the Broncos it must have been tough to motivate yourself day in day out knowing you were getting beaten. A change of clubs will be a culture shock for both.

Hopkins is already better and will become far better than A.Powell will ever be.

So did Henderson Gill...

I am totally willing to give Clubb a chance but people really should stop bringing up a game from 4 years ago when he played in a position he's not played in for nearly 2 seasons as an example of his class.

Seem to remember the same thing being said when we signed neil cowie and billy mginty and they did,nt turn out to bad.

I think like many i like to see big name signings. But I'm reminded of the story Jack Charlton tells about a conversation with Alf Ramsay. Jack said to Alf "Why me boss, there are better players than me out there", Alf replied "Yes Jack there are, but the best players don't make the best team".

That joke is absolutely terrible, I hope your singing voice is better (as your photo/avator? suggests) when you are co-opted into the new singing section at the DW.

For every McGinty and Cowie there's a David Vaealiki and Jamie Ainscough.

Interested to see what the boss sees in these two. Just hope that they have been bought with a purpose as opposed to being a project.

Wigan must have seen something in ainscough and vaieleki to sign them. Vaiaeleki had played for the kiwis and ainscough had played origin so they can,t have been that bad. Having said that they did,nt perform for wigan.

Interesting points.

Firstly Wigans main target was Mark Gasnier, we clearly invested time and money in securing his signature but for whatever reason Gasnier decided to remain at St.George. We then signed Vaealiki and took a huge gamble knowing he was injured - when his signing was announced I was told by a member of the coaching set up at the time that the club knew full well that his recent injury would prevent him from running over distance.

Jamie Ainscough is another interesting one - he looked uncomfortable at centre (he was brought in to replace Renouf) but when moved to wing showed what he could do and came up with some key plays which helped secure the Challenge Cup - How did Pat Richards look at centre in his first year? - different player when moved to the wing.

Good points well made. Did,nt realise vaieleki was signed with an injury.

I have a suspicion that Clubb might be trimmed down and put in the 3/4's

We all know that Wane likes his big s and Clubb might be able to fulfill that role.

I am not basing this on anything other than my own personal speculation

Don't think so, Wane is quoted as saying "he's just the type of forward we need" or something similar.

Really?

Oh well

Shows how much i know

Sarginson played very well at stand off for England Knights yesterday along with his scrum half Sam Powell.

o/t
Dom Crosby played #13 and looked massive, it must be the England shirt.

maybe Samoa are just little

A couple of interesting points on that interview. He turned down more money elsewhere to sign for us. Also it was said that he would be competing with Goulding, Thornley and Gelling for places.

That was a bit more than an interesting interview. As some have said up until 2 years ago he was a very decent player and listening to the interview it sounds as if he wanted out of London at least 2 years ago. He sounded relieved just to get out of London Broncos.

Heard a lot of interviews when players move to another club but you can tell that was a very honest and unscripted interview. Was funny when he said that Wane told him he would be one of the senior players at the club at 26. He would be the youngest in Wire well almost.

he way signed pre injury

I, like a lot of us, don't rate Clubb although Sarginson always did appear to have potential.
However, after recruiting Dudson, Flower, Green and Smith who we were told were average or less and have turned out to be excellent I'll reserve judgement on these two lads to see how they go in 2014.
The coaching staff do have the ability to develop a player's talent fully.
Wigan RLFC are a very good club to support.

I thought Sarginson was pretty impressive in the 60 mins I saw if yesterday's Knights game. He was solid enough in defence and was a constant threat with the ball, coming close to breaking the line numerous times. I can fully understand his signing because he was a fantastic junior player and impressed when he came in to first team at London. The lad has lost his way a little but there's no better club to be at then Wigan to improve.

Sarginson has great footwork, a good turn of pace and is quite creative so he will make breaks. His downsides are he is weak in defence, he lacks a bit of physical presence and he can be greedy which means he'll make a great break and then spoil it by not passing to a support runner when he needs to. Like Clubb nobody is sure what his best position should be, but in some ways he is kind of the opposite, early on people thought he might become a loose forward in the long term, but he doesn't look to have the physical attributes (whereas Clubb was a centre whose physical attributes always made it look like he would end up in the pack). He's mostly played centre for us, but don't be surprised if he ends up covering Matt Bowen at fullback.

Luckily weak defence is something that can (and hopefully will) be solved. Other wise its quite simple, he won't play. Wane is massive on his defence.

On the same hand, Wane is a perfectionist about picking the right option with ball in hand. If he continues to make the wrong decisions he will be left out until he makes the right ones, so i have faith in them to sort this out.

Time will tell all anyway. He could play a number of positions, but all we can do is speculate about it for now.