2 year deal for Sarginsson and 4 year deal for Clubb.

Big commitment to Clubb by Wigan.

Good signings IMO. Add great depth to an already great squad. Sarginson has good potential but will be interesting to see where Clubb plays.

I can see Sarginson replacing Thornley in the centre with Thornley possibly moving to the wing. I like Thornley but he needs to learn to look for his winger more instead of using a left foot step to cut inside.
I see Clubb as someone to push Harrison Hanson and to fill in for O'Loughlin when he's injured with Flower taking over Mossop's role.

4 years for Clubb is a big gamble

Can't see Thornley being a better wing option than Burgess mate

I am sure they will have a plan for Clubb and they need to get him at the club asap and start working on him.

In his case we need to decide now where we intend on playing him and get him conditioned to play that position. The Prop/Secondrow/Centre does not work for him. We need to get him specialised asap I feel if he is going to have a chance at success at Wigan.

The Sarginson signing certainly gives us options in the 3/4s. Basically means him, Thornley, Gelling, Burgess and Manfredi are fighting for 2 places. I think we'll see a few diiferent combinations from this 5, and I also think Sarginson, Burgess and Manfredi will spend plenty of time out on loan/dual-reg.

The Clubb signing is a bit more of a puzzler, especially on a 4 year deal. Judging from Wane's comments on the website he's going to be used as a forward. If we presume Farrell and Hansen will continue to start, he's challenging Pettybourne, Hughes and Burke for a bench spot.

I see Clubb as a replacement for Eric

Maybe they are hoping for a similar impact with Clubb as Andy Coley had. It seems like a similar sort of signing, albeit on a longer contract.

I'll be honest though and say I haven't seen much of either of these guys. Can't say I've ever gone out of my way to watch London because they usually provide the least interesting games in the competition.

We don't half have a lot of forwards at the moment:
Props - Flower, Crosby, Taylor, Dudson, Hopkins, A.Powell, Greenwood
Back rowers - Hansen, Farrell, O'Loughlin, Pettybourne, Clubb, Hughes, Burke, Lloyd, Lever

I've always liked Sarginson. He is a very skilful player and could do a utility job for Wigan in very much the same way that Ratchford does for Wire.

Clubb up until two years ago looked an excellent player, big, fast and powerful. Then he seemed to lose his way. However after just watching his interview on Wigan t.v. it is in some ways understandable, so I suppose it's wait and see what Bitcom and Wane can do with him.
Wigan have paid a transfer fee for him.

For those of you wanting to have a look at Sarginson, he's playing at #6 for England Knights v Samoa tomorrow at Salford tomorrow kick off 2 p.m.

Just a thought, that's both England U18 halfbacks (Hampshire & Williams) plus both England Knights halfbacks (Sarginson & Powell) now at Wigan.

Do you know the team Rogues? I assumed Ratchford would be at 6 with Lomax at 1

Was named yesterday:

1 Tommy Makinson (St Helens, Wigan St Judes)

2 Iain Thornley (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)

3 Josh Jones (St Helens, Blackbrook)

4 Zak Hardaker (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)

5 Ben Cockayne (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, Normanton Knights)

6 Daniel Sarginson (London Broncos, Hemel Stags)

7 Sam Powell (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)

8 Tom Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor)

9 Josh Hodgson (Hull KR, East Hull)

10 Scott Taylor (Wigan Warriors, Skirlaugh)

11 Brett Ferres (Huddersfield Giants, Smawthorne Panthers)

12 Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons, West Bowling)

13 Dominic Crosby (Wigan Warriors, Wigan & Leigh College)



Interchange

14 Chris Green (Hull FC, Skirlaugh)

15 Jack Hughes (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Judes)

16 Michael Lawrence (Huddersfield Giants, Newsome Panthers)

17 Kieran Dixon (London Broncos, Hemel Stags)

18 Brad Singleton (Leeds Rhinos, Barrow Island)

19 Josh Bowden (Hull FC, Hull Wyke)

20 Logan Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)

Quote ="Grimmy"Do you know the team Rogues? I assumed Ratchford would be at 6 with Lomax at 1'" It's on the official site. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

Quote ="Grimmy"Do you know the team Rogues? I assumed Ratchford would be at 6 with Lomax at 1'" It's on the official site. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

According to Phil wilky on twitter he thinks there will be 1 more signing aswell thoughts people?Where do we need cover? Will it be young or a more mature player?

interesting team...Thornley on Wing, Crosby at loose, and Logan bench hooker.

specialist Left winger if theres anything available better than what we have.

Can't wait for Clubb to start whinging about the way things are going at Wigan. Don't like being on the bench, don't like being on dual reg at South Wales, don't like the weather in Wigan etc etc.

Shame really he should have handled himself better in the last few months.

Not convinced by these signings but we haven't got much wrong lately in regards to signings so I am looking forward to seeing them both in a Wigan shirt.

Sarginson, OK. He's young and a prospect but then don't we have a lot of those in our U19's anyway?

Clubb I don't understand.

He is a forward full time now isn't he? No longer a centre?

If so I can't see him getting a game in the back row. As others have said we have several props as well.

As to four years, that I really do not get. He is not a star player and he's going to end up blocking younger Wigan produced players coming through on that length of a deal. So he'd better be a very good player after Bitcon has been at him otherwise it will be hard to justify his signing on that long a deal.

Whilst I understand to an extent what you are saying it is again with a glass half empty point of view.

I do not think Clubb or anybody else will stop a player coming through in our current regime. Quite the opposite Wane seems more than happy to drop experienced bigger names in order to give lads that deserve a chance a shot.

One thing is for sure he has the frame to be a beast in the right environment, so I think we will see improvements in him at Wigan under Bitcon.

I'm thinking one of two things...

Get Clubb fit and move him back into the centres. We see, to have enough cover in the forwards as it is.

OR...

Building 2 Wigan teams. Then we can rest our star players and still field a team to compete, especially with the lower end teams.

TEAM 1

Bowen
Charnley Goulding Thornley Gelling
Gree Smith
Flower McM Dudson
Faz HH
Lockers


TEAM 2

Tierney
Manfredi Sargenson Gelling Burgess
Hampshire Powell
Crosby Tomkins Taylor
Pettybourne Lloyd
Clubb

Obviously the interchange bench would consist of both 'teams' (ps I know I've named Gelling twice!)

That is a fair point. After all Lauaki was/is also on a similar deal but it does seem odd to sign a player who isn't what might call a star on a four year deal and you have to be careful what message that sends to the younger players.

Don't get me wrong, if a top player becomes available you sign him and if that puts a few noses out of joint well that is tough because you always want to add top talent to your squad. At the moment though I don't think Clubb justifies being put that kind of bracket especially when the club is about its own production line of talent.



Well the coaching staff did wonders for Flower but a lot of credit goes to the player for showing the right attitude of taking the opportunity presented to him as well. Clubb has an early Christmas present so lets hope he approaches the chance given to him like Flower did and Bitcon and Wane can justify signing him for four years by turning him into a top player.

So what IS Clubb's real position? Anyone? You have it 13, Jonh has him pencilled in at prop I think yet I think I am right in saying he has played most in the 2nd row and at centre?