have to disagree

In what way? Did you think he looked dodgy in defence?

he didnt make it to either try scored on the wing and the try Roby scored it was poor. You think otherwise?

We’ve a hell of a lot of work to do with the halfbacks and hooker. Zero space created by them and a massive concern for me. We need to lose Williams and go in a different direction at 6.

Roby try O'Loughlin was in front of him and fell backwards on him, wing tries the ball movement was far too quick for a covering fullback. No Fullback would of got over.

he could have for the first easily

That was more due to very poor defence by Sarginson. He probably didnt realise he had such a hit and miss defensive centre in his team and expected him to make the tackle.

Disagree with your ratings. Id have Hardaker 7, Marshall 7. Is also have Bullock and Hamlin as 8 or 9, I thought they were both excellent.

but he still could have got across on the slide

Spot on, two of the best centres in the league and they're not getting the service they deserve. Wonder how much time Lam will give Williams if he wants to deliver the more expansive game he's promised?

Was Williams so poor? Playing behind a beaten pack but still kept making half breaks. Leuluai at 7 offered far less (not that I'd expect much from him as a half). Losing Clubb on the same night we were having to adjust to 8 interchanges made it bloody tough and was a big factor in the loss IMO.

He shouldn't have had to, it was a poor effort from Sarge.

Exactly, he was banking on Sarginson making what should of been a fairly simple tackle, it was terrible defence and i like Sarginson even if hes not a world beater.

Hankinson has come in next week and switch Gilly back to the left. Also Tommy should never be allowed to kick on the last tackle again

I wouldnt lose faith in Sarginson just yet especially with the WCC coming up. Give him until after the WCC game. What the hell was wrong with our kicking game? Countless times neither Tommy or Williams put the kick in. On one occasion Farrell kicked it and it was awful.

Sarginson isn’t good enough tbh, he’s a really nice bloke and I have massive respect for him for the way he kept going after his personal issues last season but he’s just not good enough imo and Hankinson should be given the chance. And Tommy kicked 80% of the time and I’d say 78% of them kicks were utter dross

Sarginson is fine when hes on top of his game, he just seems to have these dips in form from time to time. He started last season like this if you remember but then came back and played fairly well towards end of season. I honestly dont think now is the right time for Hankinson. The Roosters have the 2 best centres in the world and if they shred Hankinson it could destroy him.

Trying to imagine how to handle Latrell Mitchell!

Who will Lam chop for the next game? I heard Lam roasted the players at half time (from a reliable sauce)- the players got a right grilling and it was hard to get silence from Lam. Wigan were competitive mostly, so I expect this to be a rare Lam result, with the score slightly skewered by home advantage.

Clubb mistimed a late dirty tackle from behind and got what he deserved - typical attempt from the pea brained chest beater.

For next week I’d like to see Willie Isa replaced by Sami Kibula, he’ll provide more impact off the bench with his size & skill.

They won’t need to, he’s not playing

Nurse.... gazwire is out of bed again!

Some very harsh criticism on here. We were beaten by a better side on the night and to be fair Saints looked strong. They were eating up the ground out of their own half at times and we struggled to get out of our half.
Hardaker was flawless under the high ball and in defence and there’s no way he was responsible for any of their tries. Lockers rolled back the years and did good minutes and looked good, Flower had his best game in a very long time and Bullock was excellent in his spell.
Our issues are the same as we’ve had for a few years in that we struggle to create anything when we get close to the opposition line and we gave stupid penalties away when we were getting on top. Personally I’d say the weak link is Powell who gave a few penalties away, offers nothing in attack and missed several tackles last night.

Put Williams in for Powell and try Sammut and Escare at 6, 7.