I don't rule us out by any means but we will have to find some big performances against Catalans and Hull KR. Key to that will be whether Bevan can hit the ground running when he returns.

Leigh and Saints both play Hull KR and Warrington in the final few weeks - maybe they can do us a favour.

The deciding fixture will be Wigan v HKR. Everyone thought we would get dusted in the CC Semi-final and look how that turned out.

There's still a long way to go yet before the final positions are nailed on.

5-6 weeks ago almost everyone had given Wigan the LLS. Wire and HKR need to keep this form up, a few injuries to key men and it changes pretty quickly.

Getting Bevan back will be massive as it makes us far more difficult to defend against.

On a train to London. Just typed out a long message on my phone and lost it!

I’ll post a proper reply when I’m back on my laptop but for now having only seen the highlights the only ray of sunshine for us is Harry Robertson

He makes errors and will continue to do so for a while. He’s also naive and inexperienced but my word what a player. Hard to believe he’s played less than 10 games and only been full time for two months.

I’ve waxed lyrical about this lad on here for a while and as NK said his footwork is incredible. When he puts some size and strength on that frame he’s going to be even better.

With the talent of Farrimond also, these two could be the starting halves for England sooner than you think

Hopefully saints can do us a favour this week and beat KR. Tough ask with the players they have out.

Wane said in the pre match interview that Farrimiond was in his thoughts even as early as for the Samoa squad. I'm sure Robertson will be too. A couple of great prospects for sure!

Can I mention "open goals" and "tries against 12 men" Stu or will that make me a bad winner?

Wellens didn't do himself too much good in picking out Robertson letting Marshall go around towards the posts for his try as the example of them not doing the basics. It's not that he's wrong but there were many examples of players making silly errors and picking out a kid who has been your shining light recently isn't overly wise.

I believe Robertson is more of a stand off than a full back from his academy days. I'm not sure but I think you can see that in how he's played. His footwork is startling and he's going to be some player as he fills out but there has been the odd error here and there. He got picked off by Farrimond with that try by rushing up and leaving the space in behind. The quick thinking and vision from Farrimond to see that though was outstanding. I sense those two will play in some huge games against each other in the coming years.

The biggest problem is that both players are likely to be in the NRL before too long! Two new clubs to be added to the NRL, we all know they are going to look to entice our top talent.

17 tackles and 4 runs for 23m doesn't strike me as impressive?

and more talk this morning about the NRL being in loose talks to invest in Superleague. They won't be doing that to help us, that's for sure!

When I watch Robertson play he reminds me of Kalyn Ponga. Maybe without the lightning pace but he is no slouch.

I think Sailor will hinder his development tho because welsby 1 Sailor 6 is highly likely to be first choice next year

In how many minutes?

Ponga is what I said too when I first saw him in May 2022 against Wigan scholars. First time I saw Farrimond too and they were the best two on the pitch by a distance

Ha ha. We can’t score against 13, 12 or 11 men!!

Agreed NK. I think he’s a 6 too and that’s where he has played the majority of his youth rugby.

From the brief bits us non Saints fans have seen of him if he can bulk up a bit IMO with his footwork and hands he might be an option at centre for you, definitely looks like a great prospect whatever position he ends up in if you can keep hold of him (NRL, not another SL club)

Best we can do is try and stop them increasing their points difference by 50?

Saints are going to have to throw some money at him and quick.

Did you see the Broncos/Eels game, Stu? Sailor was solid at the back, and scored a lovely solo try, Clint Gutherson couldn't lay a glove on him.

Can see Saints not making the playoffs maybe? Their injury crisis is getting worse and they could end up moving down to fifth today unless they manage a shock win versus an in form Hull KR, as Salford play Huddersfield and should win.

Leeds and Leigh are now snapping at their tails too as well.

The only reason I was routing for a Leeds win last night

Looking forward to todays game, do I shout for Saints or do I shout for HKR oh the dilemma!

A win/win situation as long as we don't mess up tomorrow

I did yeah, he played well. I think he’ll go well next year but Wellens will soon coach that flair out of him. He’ll be dropping off an inside pass and kicking to the corners in no time.

As for today it’s strange going to a game expecting a defeat but that’s the reality. As fast as we get players back we lose more. Bell and Sironen gone from last week and despite being named in the squad, Walmsley has supposedly pulled a quad so we are worse off than last week despite having Lomax and Matautia back.

I just want a good effort today, personally I’d try a couple more kids but he’s very risk averse Wellens so I can still see Davies in there who is a bang average player.

Tough going for Leeds to overtake them I think. They need to win two games more than Saints to overtake them. Not impossible when two of their four are against London and Hull, but their other two are against us and Hull KR, so you'd probably say they have to win at least one of those to have a chance.

Leigh are a different kettle of fish though. They have tough fixtures too, but will probably finish today just the one point behind them and will have Saints to play on the last game of the season. Could be a knock out fixture just a week early!