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| Can anyone see any value in this? Given strikes against the head are rare, just seems like a way to slow the game down.
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| I have always thought that scrums in RL were a bit of a joke. As such, I thought the game was better without them.
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| Should have taken the oppourtunity to scrap them. They are silly.
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| The game got too fast last year with no scrums and 6 again. It will benefit us given our PT status!
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| Quote ="wire-quin"The game got too fast last year with no scrums and 6 again. It will benefit us given our PT status!'"
Good point.
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| It's part of the international rules so continuing without scrums then having to play them in international would be a bit daft
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| Options at base of the scrum for attack open up the game a bit, where as restart with a ptb where full defensive line is set does not. Still got six again for infringements at ptb so pace of game still pretty fast.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Should have taken the oppourtunity to scrap them. They are silly.'"
Way gone are the days when a Scrum was really a Scrum, and a Hooker did his job! Never forget as a youngster, Saints signing Bill Sayer st the end of his career, many fans were so angry, but in that final, Bill won so many scrums for us and the game.
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| When you have a sport in decline like RL I think you need to look at all aspects of the game. There is the argument that a scrum punishes mistakes more than a simple turnover due to the space created but it does it in an artificial way i.e. by having a load of big blokes grab hold of each other. Maybe restarting the game quickly without the opportuinty for rest achieves the same result.
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| Why not get rid of the ptb and just have a tap restart after every tackle would make it even quicker.
Obsession with speeding the game up seems all pervasive.
Scrums are still part of the game, for me making the scrum an actual scrum needs to be the focus and make players actually bind.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Why not get rid of the ptb and just have a tap restart after every tackle would make it even quicker.
Obsession with speeding the game up seems all pervasive.
Scrums are still part of the game, for me making the scrum an actual scrum needs to be the focus and make players actually bind.'"
Wouldn't that require Referees to apply the laws correctly which in the recent past, they are often found wanting?
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| Not disagreeing with you. The laws should be applied to make players bind. The laws regarding scrums have been changed re breaking early let's see how they are applied.
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| But don't forget the people who are not abiding by the rules are the players in the first place.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Scrums are still part of the game, for me making the scrum an actual scrum needs to be the focus and make players actually bind.'" Not going to happen though is it.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"But don't forget the people who are not abiding by the rules are the players in the first place.'"
All that happens now is the ball is placed in the second row it's a joke, any player goes in the pack!
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| Quote ="jaybs"All that happens now is the ball is placed in the second row it's a joke, any player goes in the pack!'"
Union which places a great emphasis on scrums feed these days.
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