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| Quite right.
Spot on in that assessment.
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| Poor Joe. He doesn't have the tools to do the job.
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| You have to respect his honesty and genuine embarrassment. I hope he can make progress in his career in spite of the clowns he is associated with now.
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| Painful to watch to be honest. Every match is Groundhog Day!
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| on the bright side, the attendance over 2000 though!
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| The additional problem Joe has is the mind set of the squad. They know we are going down. Some of them are sorted for a move next year, some are staying, some are uncertain and others probably returning from loans. It cant be easy to keep them motivated.
Yesterday was garbage, embarrassing .... but the pre match Q&A was excellent.
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| I do feel for Joey. He's clearly hurting from this - and while you could see an improvement when he took over, they seem to have gone backwards (although the standard of the opposition yesterday needs to be taken into account).
I hope he sees that there is a future beyond this year for the Broncos. I can't say the same about some of those players who are looking for a start with a Super League club next year.
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| Quote ="Andover Boy" I can't say the same about some of those players who are looking for a start with a Super League club next year.'"
Goodness me, which ones ?
After the game I watched the players emerge from the sheds and all of them were gutted, depressed, etc bar two ..... Macani and O'Callaghan who were laughing and joking. Maybe they we talking about their performances over the last two weeks.
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"on the bright side, the attendance over 2000 though!'"
Previous 21 visits have delivered a 5,151 average, with a peak at 8,213 in 2006 and a low of 3,200 for their second trip down in 2007. Lowest attendance for the appearance of the Pies in London in the SL era this weekend and you celebrate? I'd check you're taking enough of your meds if you think that's a positive
3,200 was the week before the Challenge Cup final meaning the travelling support was minimal that day.......this year????
Of those 2,000....how many were
A) Pies living in Pietown ( My guess 25%)
B) Pies living in London ( My guess 30%)
C) Freebies to local kids (My guess 10%)
D) London Broncos Supporters.( My guess 35%)
I admire the "positivity" of some fans but the reality is we have become a tin pot club relying on the RFL's bribe to give us a home and "away" supporters to give us a semblance of respectability in regards to attendances.
Scary thing is we could get crowds lower than the Skolars next year if we're not careful!
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| Quote ="PC Plum" .... but the pre match Q&A was excellent.'"
so, we're definitely at the Hive next year are we?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"so, we're definitely at the Hive next year are we?'"
That’s a very good question and funnily enough it was one which David Hughes asked from the floor.
Mike Ford just didn’t have an answer, but Martin Offiah more than made up for this has he referenced a very reliable source who said the Broncos were homeless in 2015. He then went off on a slight tangent, telling us lots of interesting but useless and irrelevant facts (most people fell asleep to be honest), none of which backed up his claim we were to be homeless. Shaun Edwards on the other hand was very upbeat about the club, the future and the number of decent players coming through the system and was hopeful that we would be at the Hive in 2015 and many years beyond.
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| Think its quite funny, I do feel for Joe, and he honestly looked embarrassed BUT we all seem happy to accept that he does not have the tools for the job at hand, spookily when that was suggested for Rob Powell tenure it was nothing to do with the squad he had but how he motivated them, I do believe that year we did the double over Leeds.
Don't get me wrong not suggesting it's Joe fault but d looking back were we not a bit harsh on RP
As for the Q and A session I was not their so can't comment, which Mike Ford was this and why should offish or Edwards have any knowledge of if we are welcome at the Hive next year or not
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"As for the Q and A session I was not their so can't comment, which Mike Ford was this and why should offish or Edwards have any knowledge of if we are welcome at the Hive next year or not'"
I think someone might have been making a little joke
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| Quote ="jbuzza"icon_whisper.gif I think someone might have been making a little joke'"
Thank goodness for you
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| Quote ="mickyb1234" when that was suggested for Rob Powell tenure it was nothing to do with the squad he had but how he motivated them'"
The 17 first choicers that Powell had available to him would stick 50+ on the current first 17. Powell was out of his depth and Hughes refusal to admit as much QUICKLY is a contributing factor as to why we are relegated this year.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The 17 first choicers that Powell had available to him would stick 50+ on the current first 17. Powell was out of his depth and Hughes refusal to admit as much QUICKLY is a contributing factor as to why we are relegated this year.'"
Lest we forget. The appointment of Powell and Gus nearly killed this club!
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| funny he was coach of the month the first month he was with us!
Just pointing out we seem to be a pretty fickle bunch apparently Brian Mac was garbage as well
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"funny he was coach of the month the first month he was with us!
Just pointing out we seem to be a pretty fickle bunch apparently Brian Mac was garbage as well'"
When Mac was binned it was the right decision for the club, irrespective of what he has done at Leeds. Lest we forget he went there initially as an assistant. The problem was we didn't replace him with a coach of a decent standard with either SL or NRL experience
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"funny he was coach of the month the first month he was with us!
Just pointing out we seem to be a pretty fickle bunch apparently Brian Mac was garbage as well'"
I freely admit to thinking Mac's strengths lay in "motivation" rather than technical coaching. I still believe that but also concede that you don't win the trophies Leeds have under him purely through motivation. He does have a great leader on the park though.
As for Powell's "coach of the month" award.....I'll counter that with some statistics....get that stunned look off your face!
47 SL games and 5 Challenge Cup ties under his stewardship.
In the Cup 5 cup games...we beat 3 lower division teams and lost to Leeds and Hudds, whilst in 47 SL ties, we won 9 and drew one.....losing 37. Not sure about what you deem as a successful or good coach, but the term "one swallow doesn't make a spring" does spring to mind when it comes to his first month.....where by the way, 4 of his 9 wins came from.....remove the first 5 games from 2011 and his winning ration drops to a staggering 12% in 42 SL games.
Hey.....to counter this, he was on an 80% win ratio for that first month
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| Rob Powell was badly undermined a player who was effectively acting as an unofficial player coach from what I hear. If true, Rob should have been backed or bulleted. He was left in an impossible position by the powers to be doing neither for far too long.
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| Talking to people who played under Powell. They have all said he could coach. One thing that was mentioned was that after the successful start to that season, everyone was confident. What then happened was that we got smashed and he started to hold crisis meetings etc. etc. He then lost his way.
People who also played under McDermott said he was a good coach. I listen to them tbh.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Talking to people who played under Powell. They have all said he could coach'"
Talking to people who watched his team and looking at his results between Feb 12th 2011 and July 8th 2012, there is another train of thought.
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| Gutters that is the best reply I have seen from you in ages 49 games and our win ratio was X take away those wins and it's much much worse.
And did I actually say this made him the coach of coach of coaches I simply highlighted that Rob was facing a similar problem that Joe has ok maybe not as bad, but still hampered by the tools he had to work with.
I just find it interesting that we turned on Rob pretty quickly just wondering how long before Joe gets the same treatment.
Got to go back to those stats tho, brilliant mate just brilliant
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| It was just like watching Brazil!
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