next up this friday!

always a tough place with that pitch and they will smell blood

hopefully we can win the next two games and get our season kick started, we have poss had the hardest first 4 games than anyone to start with.

smith banned but giants contesting the ban i think

could poss see walne return for smith anyway

turner hopefully fit too, cant do with missing another centre

We Turner have to miss this one because he didn’t return to the field on Sunday

He didn’t fail his test according to stone but they kept him off anyway.

If we lose our next 2 games Stone has got to get sacked, for me.

I hope we do and lose the appeal so he gets banned for longer.

Seriously though, why would we contest a ban for Daniel Smith, he's really poor

You putting yourself forward to replace Rick Stone then eh Jake???









Grandad

2 game ban

From 19 its probably going to be :

1. Mamo
2. Jerry
3. Wood
4. Gaskell
5. Murphy
6. Rankin
7. Brough
8. Taai
9. O Brien
10. Clough
11. Roberts
12. Ferguson
13. Hinchliffe

14. Seb
15. Leeming
16. Dickinson
17. Mellor

Bruno and McIntosh to miss as Stone said he doesn't want to risk him on the 3G pitch.

Darnell should get a chance instead of Murphy who was dire at Wakey, but we all know that won't happen as Murph seems to be part of the "invincibles".

2 very similar teams, both compete for 40 mins then fade. Think Widnes will edge it with them been at home.

Prediction 18-10 to Widnes.

smith now gets a two game ban, seen what he was banned for, basically just tackling!



widnes getting a few players back for this one

symonds not risking that knee on the 3g pitch, thats where he picked up the injury last season!

dickinson in for smith at prop

wouldnt be surprised to see mellor given the nod to play centre but id prefer wood.

I go all out for this game my team would be

1 Mamo
2. Jerry
3. Wood
4. Murphy
5. McIntosh
6. Rankin
7. Gaskell
8. Taai
9. Brough
10. Clough
11. Roberts
12. Ferguson
13. Hinchliffe

14. Seb
15. Leeming
16. Dickinson
17. Mellor

cant afford to lose the next two games really, be chasing again like last season

stone will be under serious pressure, but the players need to take some responsibility too

losing becomes a bad habit!

Big result tonight, couldn't make the trip, very interested to hear how we went

Great result for you lads, puts things in perspective.

You were very good. Lots of runners off the ball and Brough still got it! We only scored when you were coasting.

Don't be saying that pal, there's many on our forum that want him out cos "his kicking is crap" "can't open up defence's" "he's past it" "get rid quick". Can't say that we were playing a poor team either as you turned the Rhino's over last time out and they are no poor team. Early day's and return of players from injury will see us improving. Good luck for the rest of the season Vikingsufferer (apart from the return leg).

Grandad

great to get the win, never easy over at widnes and we went in as underdogs

the conditions were a replica of the warrington match, poured it down all the match!

widnes were awful , we should have put the game to bed by half time, bombed so many chances...mamo especially needs to learn how to pass when he comes into the line...but i just dont think its in his game which is a shame, mcgillvary should have had a hat trick!

got a little worried when widnes came back at us but we just had enough left , just cant trust the giants right now to get the job done, still alot of work to do.

the red card was correct, shocking tackle on mcgillvary... albert will have to learn fast you cant do that and get away with it here. hinchliffe got a sin bin but didnt see what for, hope hes not banned, he is such a workhorse gets through a mountain of work.

sam wood once again never lets us down, he is huge! certainly put on a lot of size pre season, came off injured though

wow loads on posts after a win

You too buddy

Great pity if Sam is injured again ,at this stage he needs a concentrated run of games in our first team and i am sure he would come on in leaps and bounds,please dont send him out on loan somewhere ,we need him to be a regular first teamer at our club

Absolutely! I know they always try and be careful with the youngsters- but yes he should definitely be playing regularly at this level in our side -not on loan. Even if it’s not EVERY week.
Couldn’t go to the game but listened to commentary on radio Leeds- they reckoned Sam didn’t want to come off when he was subbed and said he was arguing with support staff about it so perhaps he will be ok.
Velvers was very critical of Mamo in the first half-JD also made a comment about his lack of passing ability brearley!
Sounded like Hinchcliffe has some nasty injuries to his knees from the 3G pitch -so if he does get a ban it will give him time to heal! Don’t want them getting infected like Lawrence’s 3G injuries did. But boy will we miss him on the pitch.
We sounded decent in the first half and dire in the second.

Daz, let’s put it in perspective- Leeds were coming off the back off jet lag- all three teams that had travelled lost that weekend.

As for Brough- compare to maguire, still winning trophies at and for Leeds. But he gets to 35 and Leeds say thanks for all your hard work but weve had the best of you, you aren’t the player you were it’s now time to move you on.
That’s a winning club mentality.

The thing is, Brough five years had nine good games for every one bad game (if we ignore games that really mattered*). That ratio - perfectly naturally - has fallen as he’s aged. He can still produce a great performance. But less and less often.

A club that genuinely wanted to win something would have been making some pretty ruthless decisions over the past few years. Those decisions haven’t happened. That’s why we win nowt and St Helens win a lot.

* he loses it in big games and goes into his shell - always did, which, let’s be honest, is why he ended up playing for us and not Wigan or St Helens. That mentality would either have been drilled out of him or he’d have been moved on.

At the end of the day it boils down to who is running the club we all know what the attitude is and it goes throughout the club a change is desperately needed but for some strange reason it won’t happen

To be fair we have seen the best of Danny. He fully deserved his man of steel. He was the best player in SL that season, no doubt. A great coach gets the best out of players and Anderson did that with Danny during that season. Anderson couldn't repeat the trick and neither has anyone else.

As said previously, the sooner the Brough era ends the sooner we can start to build around a new half and hopefully maybe a new style of play. The conditions at Widnes suited Danny's game, his kicks caused real problems. The problem is, as was seen against saints and to a lesser degree wakefield, we cannot open up a defence near the line if they defend kicks well. This team actually has some talented outside backs, and we need to be getting the best from them. Time to move on and try something/someone new at the end of the year.