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| Well yes a building with 20 people in it needs 40 disabled parking spaces
Yet another case of council madness
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| Maybe they would make an announcement to explain why council money has been spent having roller shutters fitted to the stadium at the corners and yet they have never to my knowledge been used ?
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"SENT ON BEHALF OF SHAUN CURRIE, SAFETY OFFICER
Dear Partner,
The continuing development of the Leigh Sports Village has seen an increase in the number of visitors to the many facilities that are on offer. This increase has resulted in greater demand for parking close to the facility being visited, which has resulted in an abuse of the disabled parking bays, the drop-off and pick-up areas, bus lay-bys and the turning circle at the end of Sale Way.
LSV Co have received a number of complaints relating to indiscriminate parking and, having investigated these complaints, have become concerned about the increased risks to the safety of visitors and the restricted access to emergency service vehicles caused by parking in non-designated areas. In addition, the LSV Co are committed to providing facilities for disabled visitors and will not tolerate parking in designated disabled parking bays by non-disabled persons. This practice is offensive and demonstrates a blatant disregard for the Disability Discrimination Act.
The LSV Co has worked in partnership with yourselves to resolve this issue by politely requesting that visitors comply with site parking rules. Fortunately, the majority of visitors are compliant but there remains a minority who continue to abuse the rules. Therefore, the LSV Co have found it necessary, in the interests of safety and respect for disability, to secure the services of a private ticketing company to enforce the parking rules across the site.
It is our intention to implement this process from 1st October 2009 and the required Securities Industries Act approved signs will be erected at appropriate locations to warn visitors of the consequences of parking in contravention of site rules and we ask that you put up notices at your respective facilities advising your customers of the implementation date and the requirement to park in the designated areas and, when necessary, to display disabled badges.
Many thanks for your anticipated co-operation.
Shaun Currie
Safety Officer
Leigh Sports Village
Sale Way
Leigh
WN74JY'"
Every word, every phrase reeks of vintage "bureaucratic jobsworth"
Is this what LSV is really all about?
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| Quote ="mr. chairman":dkmw489pyeh i noticed that steve , a bit strange that , what are they there for'" money ?
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| maybe if they gave us a decent amount of parking in the first place
did the original plans show the site as only having 20 parking spaces?
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| Parking tiockets issued on private land or sites do not have the same deinition in law as do parking tickets given out by police or local authority.
When a car is ticketed it is the DRIVER not the OWNER (reg keeper) who is liable to pay.
ONLY THE POLICE under the Road Traffic act have the power to REQUIRE the owner of a ticketed vehicle to disclose who the driver was at the time.
Therefore if you get a ticket ask them to tell you who the driver was, or better still ignore it and argue in court.
They give these tickets out knowing that the majority will pay to save the bother of arguing it out.
THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO POLICE OR LOCAL AUTHORITY ISSUED PARKING ENFORCEMENT TICKETS.
That is how I read the case law on the matter unless you know different?
I am not in any way condoning that people park in the disabled bays at the LSV - I too am registered disabled and park in them, its just that it is the usual smokescreen by private land owners, now if the 'clamped' the vehicles well thats a whole different ball game.
Here endeth todays law lecture must get on and finish building my shed
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| They should make 90% of the spaces disabled and 10% not because most of the cars these days have a disabled badged in the window, and I've never seen any of them in a wheel chair.
I think I'll go on EBay and get one myself.
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| Well i applaud this ,it makes me angry to see people taking up the disabled spaces just because its nearer to where they are going with no thought of the people who really need them.I know the badges can be and are abused and this needs to be looked into more thoroughly.We have disabled parking outside our house and it infuriates me when people park in it with little or no regards to us .
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| I've no problem with this, but just how many disabled bays does the stadium really need?
There must 30 of them outside the West Stand alone.
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| Quote ="Alexs Dad"I've no problem with this, but just how many disabled bays does the stadium really need?
There must 30 of them outside the West Stand alone.'"
Those are the ones I was reffering to
Use them and be clamped
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| What on earth is the matter with people. This whole thread is laughable. Both sides need too look at their selves. Who really wants to park in the dissabled bays right in front of the stadium? Are these the people who dont ant to que up for tickets on match days. Its not pathetic its childish. Dont think LSV are getting away with this because if they have to stoop to these measures in another childish attempt to get at the clubs involved in the LSV to agree to their wishes then thats even more pathetic than the complainants. Is there not an ombudsman that can sort all this out?
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| Quote ="Last Chance Saloon"They should make 90% of the spaces disabled and 10% not because most of the cars these days have a disabled badged in the window, and I've never seen any of them in a wheel chair.
I think I'll go on EBay and get one myself.'"
No need for e bay just apply, have a nedical and if you fail it then you get one. ( you dont have to use a wheelchair to have one)
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| If you read the letter properly,LSV have taken this action because they have recieved complaints,its a no brainer is this,DONT PARK IN DISABLED SPACES UNLESS YOU HAVE THE CORRECT BADGE
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| If you read the letter properly,LSV have taken this action because they have received complaints,its a no brainer is this,DONT PARK IN DISABLED SPACES UNLESS YOU HAVE THE CORRECT BADGE.
The Watcher thinks ASDA should take up this idea & start ticketing the ignorant chavs who abuse their disabled parking spaces.
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| Quote ="The Watcher"If you read the letter properly,LSV have taken this action because they have received complaints,its a no brainer is this,DONT PARK IN DISABLED SPACES UNLESS YOU HAVE THE CORRECT BADGE.
The Watcher thinks ASDA should take up this idea & start ticketing the ignorant chavs who abuse their disabled parking spaces.'"
I think the Watcher needs to open his/her eyes They do.
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| and have done for years
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| Well it doesn't seem to stop the cretins parking where they are not permitted & The Watcher hasn't seen any evidence of this or he would not have posted the suggestion would he.
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ASDA is signposted close to the DD bays.
And as the LSV is on Wigan Council Land i would have thought that parking enforcement would be regulated by the council the and not for LSV (a small private company) to bring in a private ticketing company. but as Fred rightly points out
If this has been covered before i apologize
www.bitterwallet.com/dealing-wit ... rt-1/15305
I ask the question does LSV stand for Little Simon`s Stadium.?
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ASDA is signposted close to the DD bays.
And as the LSV is on Wigan Council Land i would have thought that parking enforcement would be regulated by the council the and not for LSV (a small private company) to bring in a private ticketing company. but as Fred rightly points out
If this has been covered before i apologize
www.bitterwallet.com/dealing-wit ... rt-1/15305
I ask the question does LSV stand for Little Simon`s Stadium.?
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| Why don't the Stadium people charge for parking ? £1 would be acceptable for home fans,£2 for away speccies & it could help other financial problems LSV is experiencing.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"i witnessed a footballer park is car in the diabled bay at east and run onto the field , play a game of footy and get back in his car , he had a disabled badge in his windscreen , when i confronted him he said , i am disabled
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he may have been a mental disabled, it is hard to tell the difference.
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| I would think that the LSV site is still private land and the roads are unadopted as yet, or like was said there would be Local Authority parking restrictions applied for.
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| If I nip into the club during the week to buy tickets or sort the lottery out or whatever, I admit I park in one of the disabled bays in front of the West Stand.
It's really not because of laziness, it's because no other bugger is there. But being a stubborn bugger I cant see the point of rules for rules sake. I could play pitch and put on that car park without fear of damaging a car.
If they were chock full of disabled folks cars parked at the day care centre thing then fair enough, but its not. Paul Rowleys car might be there or maybe Dave Bradshaws, but thats it. Nowt else.
Are they going to clamp or ticket me for that?
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| Good call Watcher. The only downside they would have to delay KO every week as they struggle to get 2000 speccies in for 3pm. If they had to collect parking fees as well, any revenue generated would be lost in fines to the RFL for delayed KO.
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