We could quite easily have won all our league games so far this season

Both close defeats to Batley and Barrow where if we had played for the whole 80 minutes we would have won both

We could also quite easily have lost all our league matches as well as all three have been close wins especially Sheffield and Widnes

So should we be happy or dissapointed


I thought we actually played much better yesterday in the first half than we have done so far this season

Then it all just fell apart



Hopefully we will be able to keep it all together next week

Or a 3rd way of looking at it - we got beat by currently best team outside SL.



What made it more difficult to take the 2nd half collapse is who saw it coming at half time? We get great result away at Widnes, and storm to comfortable lead, and look like cruising - and just when our expectations reach the possibility of a double weekend win......

They were garbage for the 1 st half , I was very dissapointed in then , I was expecting much more

In total agreement over their 1st half performance... thought they were the absolutely clueless, a bit like we were in the 2nd....

I think Barrow played poor in the first half possibly due to playing Fax, Wigan and Whitehaven in the last couple of weeks. Some of the players could be feeling the effects of the easter period and will be glad for a weekend off.

IMO the possibility of the fatigue element taking its toll would `ve occurred in the 2nd half...

I also wondered if Barrow were showing the after effects of a full blown Cumbrian derby played out less than 72 hours previously. A little like in 2006 when we demolished Widnes on Good Friday by some 50 points, only to get hammered by 30 points up at Hull KR on the Easter Monday.

Barrow however certainly have a sprinkling of quality players at this level.

we didnt put enough points on the board in the first half and fell apart ompletly in the second half when watto went off

It's a problem - we aren't currently capable of high scores.

I think Halifax are the best team outside SL to be honest mate.

Not got enough people who can finish off moves. We're too lightweight in the centres and wings and not enough creativity at half back particularly when Watson isn't on the pitch.

this was one game where, rather than be negative against the team, i would credit the opposition instead.


thought ned catic was sensational for barrow, and finch was a real inspiration.

Well I think our problem in all games has been the innability to create anything on our opponents line.
Due to this we are not adding to our score and therefore the opposition must feel that they are still in the game. This frustrates our guys who give away silly penalties that get the opponents down field. Their tails are up and we are pushing the panic button. Hence the close results this season.
I think our defence is quite good but due to the above we lose confidence. Barrow and Doncaster the week before (plus others) have been poor and we should have been out of sight but we can't play basic rugby.
Just watched a few highlights on the SL show -wow, that's a different game.
They run at speed, back up, pass the ball along the line - what the fc()k are we playing?

Not the wi**n highlights then i assume

Finch can kill you from Dummy half.

Unfortunately though, NL1 (or the Championship!), just needs a quick play the ball, and away you go!!

We are very slow at getting up. Maybe mastering this will give us the improvement we need in attack.

Barrow are a good little side, but its a Marathon, not a sprint. It looks like the fear factor at LSV effect the home side more than the away one!!

have a feeling you're thinking of liam finn at the rams, rather than liam finch the barrow stand off



though andy ellis, the barrow rake, was quick and gave precision ball from dummy half

He's a good player at this level is Andy Ellis, especially now he picks when to pass and when to run, he was always a handy runner from dummy half but he's now worked a lot on his passing and you can see the improvement.

ITS NOWT TO DO WI BARROW!!!! ITS ALL TO DO WITH LEIGH & OUR COACH!!!!! With or without Watson, that game should have been wrapped up and WON!!! 16-2 up against a team just promoted and get beat?!?!?! We totally out classed them in the 1st half and at half time I had a feeling we didn't score enough points for all our pressure!! We did go e when Watson went off but thats coz we had no1 to organise them on the pitch!!!! MR KELLY - WE NEED A PLAYMAKER & QUICK!!!! ps - anyone know why a Leigh lad who played with me at Golborne Parkside for years in Andy Bracek is playing at Barrow on loan when he plays and lives near Warrington!!!! Loan or not, he would have given us great strength!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Bracek

ITS NOWT TO DO WI BARROW!!!! ITS ALL TO DO WITH LEIGH & OUR COACH!!!!! With or without Watson, that game should have been wrapped up and WON!!! 16-2 up against a team just promoted and get beat?!?!?! We totally out classed them in the 1st half and at half time I had a feeling we didn't score enough points for all our pressure!! We did go e when Watson went off but thats coz we had no1 to organise them on the pitch!!!! MR KELLY - WE NEED A PLAYMAKER & QUICK!!!! ps - anyone know why a Leigh lad who played with me at Golborne Parkside for years in Andy Bracek is playing at Barrow on loan when he plays and lives near Warrington!!!! Loan or not, he would have given us great strength!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Bracek

Quote ="dezyis21"ITS NOWT TO DO WI BARROW!!!! ITS ALL TO DO WITH LEIGH & OUR COACH!!!!! With or without Watson, that game should have been wrapped up and WON!!! 16-2 up against a team just promoted and get beat?!?!?! We totally out classed them in the 1st half and at half time I had a feeling we didn't score enough points for all our pressure!! We did go poop when Watson went off but thats coz we had no1 to organise them on the pitch!!!! MR KELLY - WE NEED A PLAYMAKER & QUICK!!!! ps - anyone know why a Leigh lad who played with me at Golborne Parkside for years in Andy Bracek is playing at Barrow on loan when he plays and lives near Warrington!!!! Loan or not, he would have given us great strength!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Bracek'" .....because he moved to Barrow to be with his pregnant girlfriend?

Quote ="dezyis21"ITS NOWT TO DO WI BARROW!!!! ITS ALL TO DO WITH LEIGH & OUR COACH!!!!! With or without Watson, that game should have been wrapped up and WON!!! 16-2 up against a team just promoted and get beat?!?!?! We totally out classed them in the 1st half and at half time I had a feeling we didn't score enough points for all our pressure!! We did go poop when Watson went off but thats coz we had no1 to organise them on the pitch!!!! MR KELLY - WE NEED A PLAYMAKER & QUICK!!!! ps - anyone know why a Leigh lad who played with me at Golborne Parkside for years in Andy Bracek is playing at Barrow on loan when he plays and lives near Warrington!!!! Loan or not, he would have given us great strength!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Bracek'" .....because he moved to Barrow to be with his pregnant girlfriend?

Is that just a load of Boll**ks or what?!?

I have just looked and his bird is from the north west of England - they have moved up there coz they prob paid him the most money!!!!

Last time I looked Barrow was in the North West of England.

we r the north west of england u retard!!!

they r on the border, up with the sheep!!!

his bird is from Warrington!

How abusive are you? Ah well at least the schools are back next week thank god.

think you need to take a good look at an atlas