"So you are HAPPY with every decision made by an official,"

If you read my post properly you will note that I didn't say anything like that. I accept that they do make mistakes, some fans won't accept that sometimes it is player error that lost the game not referee error.

I hope Child doesn't affect the result, it would be difficult given the opposition, but I bet he makes less errors than the players.


How would you make a ref accountable, demote him so you get a less experienced official. The replacement would make mistakes as well, where would it stop? Coaches doing half a match each.

There's a thought!

But then look how biased Aston, Lowes, Chester, Betts, Sheens, Smith, and Marshall would be. No, there's only one who would be totally unbiased, in these Qualifiers!

I'm not suggesting we lost our first three games because of the Referees! I'm making an observation on James Childs as a Referee! Every game he takes involving Leigh he is constantly talking to and warning Leigh players, far more than he does the opposition!
We have acquired a reputation for ill discipline and I think some Referees are riding on the back of that? yes we commit foul play however, has any of our foul play led to an opponent being seriously injured or, hospitalised? rarely i'll bet! Some of our players are a target for opposition teams, none more so than Sam Barlow! Sam came to Leigh with a reputation for foul play yet, it is he who gets targeted and has sometimes finished up in Hospital! Gregg McNally too seems to be targeted and hehas had his fair share of Hospital Linen!
In the Wakey game, Childs could quite easily given us justifiable penalties however, as usual, he chose not to! When Liam Kay chased Ridyards kick down to score a glorious try Chris Riley deliberately tried to impede Liam from collecting the ball! Childs could have awarded Leigh a further two points for the foul but, he didn't! A couple of years ago he awarded Catalan an eight point try against us for their player being fouled during scoring! Again, Wakey game, he could have awarded us a penalty as Gregg McNally was fouled whilst chasing a free play but, he didn't ! Its these inconsistencies which draws my criticism of Childs! had a Leigh Player stuck his arm and felled a Wakey winger, as Lee Smith did to Liam Kay, I've no doubt whatsoever our player would have seen a red card!
Kurt Haggerty was plain stupid kneeing the irritating Lee Smith, Childs could and perhaps should have given him a red card, the first offence was Smith gripping Kurts leg and preventing him from getting up, trying to milk a penalty, an action that was spotted by the officials who were prepared to play on! just another of Childs inconsistencies!
Lets see how he goes on Sunday? I for one would prefer someone else!

Two different scenarios both dealt with correctly. Having said that Child does miss things but they all do.



That wouldn't be inconsistency, that would be cheating............refs don't cheat.


So would I but there aren't many to pick from.

Bluddy ell, talk about cherry and white spex

(1) So what if Childs is constantly talking to and warning our players more so than the opposition? Do you think sometimes we deserve it more than the opposition?
(2) Watch the game again - Riley was nowhere near Liam Kay when he scored so no chance of an 8 point try.
(3) Don't recall the Greg McNally incident but do you not think Wakey fans could point out just as many such decisions which did not go their way?
(4) "if a Leigh player stuck his arm out and felled a Wakey winger our player would have seen a red card" - that's just paranoia. I seem to recall their player Sio (??) getting a yellow card when Kurt Haggerty got no more than a penalty.
(5) Watch the game again - the touchie was wrong, Smith did not grip Haggerty's leg. He did nothing except be an irritating git, which does not entitle you to knee him in the head (Greg McNally anybody?)

I'm with reffy here - far too much referee blaming for me.

As for this business about the opposition being offside, have Leythers ever looked at our defensive line when the opposition has the ball?

The question should be. Would Childs have pinged Riley for obstruction If Kay hadn't scored?

Personally for me Childs is fine when he has a video ref available. Take that away from him and he lose's the plot more often than not.

Getting back to the original thread ,if we don't win with ease on Sunday ,it's Goodnight Irene to SL, as our points difference is poor, myself I think we will win, it's a must.

All will change on Sunday Charlie..

Atomic knows...

'Poor' because we have played 3 SL sides? Yes the bulls had a big difference against Salford but we had a better result against Wakey. The murk will have cleared a bit more by 4.45 on Sunday.

I hope it isn't any later, my last bus is 5.00pm.

Well its a big game on Sunday as Eagles are a good side at this time of the year and have been for a number of year but I'm confident if Leigh play to our best we will see the right result.
Had an incredibly tough start to the 8's but been unlucky in 2 of the 3 games so with a bit more thought and the luck from a bounce of the ball or a 50/50 decision we should do ok.
Another big favour is the temperatures pitch side shouldn't be anything near what they was for the 3 SL games which was played in sapping heat and was a credit to all the players taking to the field.
Can't wait for Sunday.

Atomic, I must say I agree with you , I do think Leigh WILL win on Sunday ,it won't be easy but I think we will prevail, then onto the Fax game next week which will be much harder,I think to many Leigh fans took things for granted,some even thinking we wouldn't lose a game in the 8's, hopefully the Sheff game will boost our confidence bring back a little self belief,we need to focus on every game now no slip ups, can we do it?Of course we can,Cmon you Leythers.What time does the Ticket Office open?

We will win Sunday as i'm bringing Dylan and we don'tlose when he comes to a game, unfortunately i haven't been able to bring him to any of the super eights yet and he loves us playing Sheffield after being mascot at last years home game.

We should beat Sheffield. Really need to be hammering them though to try and claw some confidence back.

You never know what you're going to get with Sheffield.

One thing is for sure, Aston will have them wound up and ready to niggle, capitalise on our indiscipline, and play expansive rugby on the back of a penalty count.

We have to stay calm and not give Child's any opportunities to penalise us, be squeaky clean, and we'll steamroller them.

If Childs refs it at SL speed Sheffield wont have time to niggle and slow it down

Reffy am I right in thinking that a further penalty can only be awarded for an infringement after the try had been scored, so the push from the Wakefield player went unpunished. Had Liam not scored then we may or may not have been awarded a penalty try or at least a penalty.

Yes you are correct, a penalty can be awarded for foul play on a player who is scoring a try. This kick is taken from in front of the sticks after the conversion. A penalty try can be awarded if the ref is sure a try would have been scored but is prevented by the unfair play.

Is Barlow and Beswick injured, if anything I thought Hock would be a risk with Barlow a certainty in such a crucial game.

I was at the Fax game today and saw Sam Barlow. He said he wasn't playing tomorrow because he had injured his elbow. He said he hoped to be fit for the Bradford game.

Cheers, hopefully after a few weeks off Sam will be pushing for his place back in the side.