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| I think the club need to draw a line under what has gone on thus far.
A football fiend of mine mentioned last season as my team was running away with every match that 'we've done nothing until we've won something' and that is Leigh this season - great RL, Great entertainment but now lets back that up with an end product.
I posted on another thread we need to go into lockdown and by that I mean we focus on us and only us and any media is kept to a minimum and if we do say anything lets concentrate on us and don't waste any energy worrying or getting annoyed with things other clubs get or do, equally on match day leave the official to make his mistakes and not get too distracted by it - concentrate on us and what we can influence.
The lads have underperformed in the 8's thus far by the standards they have set, yet with that all important 50/50 call or rub of the green we could easily be sat on 4 points from 3 games against SL opposition so use that as a springboard to build on, get our fitness and mental awareness up to the highest order in this 2 week window before we play Sheffield Eagles and concentrate on us and no-one else.
There is lots to play for and its still in our hands to do what we set out to do, let other clubs comment and quibble and let the fans do the complaining.
We are a very good RL side and the Championship is a very good league, thus far its not shown but for now lets work damn hard in training perfecting what it is that Leigh Centurions do well.
Do that and hopefully with the help of some 50/50 calls or a luckier bounce of a ball we are more than a match for any team.
Its still in our hands but the real seasons work and the real effort starts now.......I'd take where we are now over this where we was last season, its in our hands so lets take the opportunity to prove we've not spent a season doing nothing - lets win something.
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| I think they should draw a line through it,not under it.Sheffield is next on the list as you say and that's were our concentration should be,not on what could be or is going to be..Take one game at a time and make sure the rule is followed as we have done all season.
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| I would like to see a huge marketing drive for this game and an offer for ST holders to bring a mate who wouldn't normally go or something - get 5000 on and show the players we are still with them
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| Excellent post Jenky.
I had nearly given up on this Forum - the last few weeks seem to me to have been a procession of rubbish, people posting for the sake of posting with little to contribute, a glut of wind up merchants coming from other clubs and pointless responses by those rising to the bait.
Nice to hear from someone with something useful to say.
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| Has there been a push locally on this game in Leigh?
Need the North stand packed and absolutely bouncing for this game as its probably the most critical fixture of the last 10 years.
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| Surprised Fax aren't going full time next season as well.
I think the success of this format isn't just that we got competitive games that mean something virtually all season with a chance of promotion based on what you do on the pitch but the fact any extra finance and higher profile generated helps part time clubs start to go full time, be that a full team or half the squad.
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| I think Fax are more toward using the finances for a reserve squad.Which to be honest is future planning and not short term,which can only make them stronger in the long run.
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| Quote ="atomic"I think Fax are more toward using the finances for a reserve squad.Which to be honest is future planning and not short term,which can only make them stronger in the long run.'"
Here's hoping so. Going full time could mean that we lose a chunk of our squad, ala Seagulls, so not always the best way though I do think most of your squad went FT.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Surprised Fax aren't going full time next season as well.
I think the success of this format isn't just that we got competitive games that mean something virtually all season with a chance of promotion based on what you do on the pitch but the fact any extra finance and higher profile generated helps part time clubs start to go full time, be that a full team or half the squad.'"
I suspect they'll be like Sheffield were last season - a sizeable chunk of the squad on FT deals, but not everyone. Probably looking to progress to full full-time status.
As pointed out, moving to a FT environment can be very disruptive.
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| I think we will get about 2800 on Sunday
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| More than that .
This like all the games we have left this season must be won.
.Leythers will turn up in good numbers.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"More than that .
This like all the games we have left this season must be won.
.Leythers will turn up in good numbers.'"
I hope you are right. However the manner of defeat in each of the last 3 games and especially the HKR and Wakey ones has hurt the club in a lot of ways. This will include the attitude of some fans. In the past it would be me that went home and 'kicked the cat', but for the first time ever I had to restrain my wife she was so angry at the performance after the Wakey game. Ryan Brierley has openly said the team are not learning fast enough. Personally I don't think they have learnt anything at all. With Bradford winning last time out and more mayhem (Chase suspended) at Salford, all we can do is win ALL our last 4 games. Unless we score a shed load of points I can't see 3 wins being enough now. Fax to beat Salford this Saturday?
Certain important players have not risen to the occasion in any of our first 3 games. Is it because the pressure is too much, is it because we have played 3 SL teams first up, who knows. All I know is that something has gone missing and discipline issues are creeping back in. Kurt was just stupid against Wakey and cannot be defended (even though I am sure some will try). I actually have him as a first choice player in my ideal team by the way.
Either way we will be there on Sunday hopefully with a couple extra in tow
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| Quote ="DemonUK"I hope you are right. However the manner of defeat in each of the last 3 games and especially the HKR and Wakey ones has hurt the club in a lot of ways. This will include the attitude of some fans. In the past it would be me that went home and 'kicked the cat', but for the first time ever I had to restrain my wife she was so angry at the performance after the Wakey game. Ryan Brierley has openly said the team are not learning fast enough. Personally I don't think they have learnt anything at all. With Bradford winning last time out and more mayhem (Chase suspended) at Salford, all we can do is win ALL our last 4 games. Unless we score a shed load of points I can't see 3 wins being enough now. Fax to beat Salford this Saturday?
Certain important players have not risen to the occasion in any of our first 3 games. Is it because the pressure is too much, is it because we have played 3 SL teams first up, who knows. All I know is that something has gone missing and discipline issues are creeping back in. Kurt was just stupid against Wakey and cannot be defended (even though I am sure some will try). I actually have him as a first choice player in my ideal team by the way.
Either way we will be there on Sunday hopefully with a couple extra in tow'"
A lot of that rings true for me Derek. What we need on Sunday is a rollicking good performance against Sheffield. We SHOULD beat them, but you never know in these games! We too will be there to find out!
P.S. Wish Salford had suspended Rangi before the game against us!
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| Quote ="DemonUK"I hope you are right. However the manner of defeat in each of the last 3 games and especially the HKR and Wakey ones has hurt the club in a lot of ways. This will include the attitude of some fans. In the past it would be me that went home and 'kicked the cat', but for the first time ever I had to restrain my wife she was so angry at the performance after the Wakey game. Ryan Brierley has openly said the team are not learning fast enough. Personally I don't think they have learnt anything at all. With Bradford winning last time out and more mayhem (Chase suspended) at Salford, all we can do is win ALL our last 4 games. Unless we score a shed load of points I can't see 3 wins being enough now. Fax to beat Salford this Saturday?
Certain important players have not risen to the occasion in any of our first 3 games. Is it because the pressure is too much, is it because we have played 3 SL teams first up, who knows. All I know is that something has gone missing and discipline issues are creeping back in. Kurt was just stupid against Wakey and cannot be defended (even though I am sure some will try). I actually have him as a first choice player in my ideal team by the way.
Either way we will be there on Sunday hopefully with a couple extra in tow'"
Quote (even though I am sure some will try)'"
Who would try and defend that? Stop committing animal cruelty and get back to reality..Leigh by 60,We start now.
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| If Childs spent more time getting our opponents onside and, less time Lecturing our players we may stand a chance!. Last time we played the Eagles, Knowles spent more time in our lineout than his own! Childs is rotten for Leigh we must be careful and toe the line or we will be penalised out of the game. If teams are going to be allowed offside against us we must plan accordingly, we saw what the long kick did against wakey, lets have the short kicks over their offside men! No doubt Tulapapa will be his loco self ? we definitely cant afford to lose this one!
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| Quote ="kirkhall"If Childs spent more time getting our opponents onside and, less time Lecturing our players we may stand a chance!. Last time we played the Eagles, Knowles spent more time in our lineout than his own! Childs is rotten for Leigh we must be careful and toe the line or we will be penalised out of the game. If teams are going to be allowed offside against us we must plan accordingly, we saw what the long kick did against wakey, lets have the short kicks over their offside men! No doubt Tulapapa will be his loco self ? we definitely cant afford to lose this one!'"
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| Aye, the reason we have lost the first three games is the referees' abysmal performances, nowt to do with poor tactics, poor discipline, poor decision making, players' poor form etc. If the referees gave us a fair crack we would have six points instead of zilch.
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| Quote ="Alan"A lot of that rings true for me Derek.'"
I read this at lunch but wasn't logged in and wanted to say exactly that
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| Quote ="reffy"Aye, the reason we have lost the first three games is the referees' abysmal performances, nowt to do with poor tactics, poor discipline, poor decision making, players' poor form etc. If the referees gave us a fair crack we would have six points instead of zilch.'"
Oooooh, get you ! Obviously not, we didn't get thrashed at Salford because of the referee. If you watched Childs in action, guess you have, with your username/avatar. Childs doesn't do offside, never looks left/right, defending teams get away with murder...no he's not biased, it's just his weak spot.
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| I know your username is REFFY, but your 'sticking up for officials' is rather predictable and boring. Why don't you type stuff like a Leigh fan, rather than local official Phil Bentham.
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| Quote ="terrykelly"I know your username is REFFY, but your 'sticking up for officials' is rather predictable and boring. [uWhy don't you type stuff like a Leigh fan[/u, rather than local official Phil Bentham.'"
Your right Terry, But maybe he isn't a Leigh fan really, Just a fan of referees.
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| Best team will win on Sunday irrespective of the referee.
This criticism of Childs goes back to our Challenge Cup defeat to Catalan about 3 seasons ago.
I watched the game again on Centurion TV after that game and posted at the time after watching it again I thought he got the crucial decisions right despite not thinking so in real time.
Leigh will win on Sunday if they play better than Sheffield.
Refs don't win games players do.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Best team will win on Sunday irrespective of the referee.
This criticism of Childs goes back to our Challenge Cup defeat to Catalan about 3 seasons ago.
I watched the game again on Centurion TV after that game and posted at the time after watching it again I thought he got the crucial decisions right despite not thinking so in real time.
Leigh will win on Sunday if they play better than Sheffield.
Refs don't win games players do.'"
Hello Frank.
My criticism of Mr Child is that he can get a decision right, but he's not consistent,then he's surrounded by players,then the crowd are booing,then he loses the plot and makes guess decisions giving penalties hoping he can regain his credibility,but by then he's given penalty after penalty,the games gone sour and everyone get's frustrated with the whole outcome of the game. Like I said in an earlier post, Iv'e yet to see him have a good game. For me, I think he needs to take a leaf out of Ben Thaler's book.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Your right Terry, But maybe he isn't a Leigh fan really, Just a fan of referees.'"
I am a Leigh fan and have been for donkey's ages, I have also been a referee. I can see faults in Leigh performances and faults in referees' performances. The average Leigh fan only sees faults in referees' performances and uses them as an excuse.
There are a few who do see the odd fault by their team but if they voice their opinion they are shouted down and ridiculed by the majority wearing cherry & white glasses.
This phenomenon is not unique to Leigh fans.
[u Edit[/u I am not averse to venting my ire at a referee if i think he is wrong but I do that to Leigh players as well.
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| Quote ="reffy"I am a Leigh fan and have been for donkey's ages, I have also been a referee. I can see faults in Leigh performances and faults in referees' performances. The average Leigh fan only sees faults in referees' performances and uses them as an excuse.
There are a few who do see the odd fault by their team but if they voice their opinion they are shouted down and ridiculed by the majority wearing cherry & white glasses.
This phenomenon is not unique to Leigh fans.
When does this happen ? Defeats only ? Did this happen at Leeds & Doncaster last season ? Did this happen at Warrington away in the challenge cup.....NO ! When your team is on 'the back foot' so to speak, and it appears that the Ref is being unfair, is this an adverse reaction ? NO. Like 'high tackles' on Liam kay, where the Ref ignores it. So you are HAPPY with every decision made by an official, because you have reffed a few amatuer/kids games. Get A Grip !!!! Ref's aren't biased, they have 'off days' like anyone else in their job, shame is the RFL do not make them accountable.
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