And Paul's results are he's arguably the best coach in this country.

Maybe when SL elite clubs come calling having his Dad on board may just help to keep him....

If your judging on results why did you ever ask the question.

As for the statement you refer to that Allan made, was he right?? Yes of course he was and that statement didn't do us any harm in fact right now it's probably helping in more ways than you can imagine!

And there was me thinking you followed Leigh from years ago and not just jumping on the band wagon

Really Ste?

Cutting aside all the SL, Championship BS we are essentially a second division side still so if winning the second division makes you the best coach in the country then Darren Abram must have been the Messiah as he got us to SL and chucked in a NRC cup along the way also.........

Paul is improving year on year and doing a fantastic job and is a very promising young British coach but the big challenges are all still all in front of him yet and he knows that im sure.

I think any true Leigh fan is uncomfortable about the number of times we have looked down the barrel of administration / bankruptcy and to be fair the current situation with the restructuring of the leagues expose us to that once again.
However Derek and his team are in the position of deciding the clubs immediate destiny and they will take up the challenge as they see fit.
Paul is also embarking on the biggest challenge of his coaching life and will need the support of everyone to achieve.

If Allan is declared as CEO I am not sure if he is the correct person to give Paul support -- after all whoever listened to their dad's advice



Seriously anyone who gives their time to the club should be applauded,we all would operate in different ways but would all want the same outcome.

Roll on Sunday

Yeah Andy Really..........

Opinions are like ar5e holes we all have one.......

Do you think Darren Abram is a better coach than Paul?

Do you think his team played better rugby?

Did Darren arrive at pre season with no coaching staff and a dozen players at best?

Did Darren manage to survive a financial crisis?

Did Darren create the team culture Paul has?

Personally as i stated originally i think he is the best British coach, out of interest as you think he isnt who would you swap him with??

1983 to be exact....

Your original post was a little vague, plenty happened in the past but as this post is about alledgedly Allan being the CEO. You referred to people forgetting the past, ill ask again what happened in the past?

But you didn't mate your post which I questioned stated........... [size=150And Paul's results are he's arguably the best coach in this country.[/size

No sign of a "in my opinion" or "personally I believe" etc. it was yet another bold statement which factually cant be supported.

Just to be clear here. I'm not disputing Pauls capabilities or achievements nor am I stating one is better than the other as who am I to judge. I was questioning your statement and applying your logic to Darren Abram having (On Paper) so far achieved more than the current coach then he must using your logic be a messiah in RL coaching terms if Paul is you say "arguably the best coach in this country" surely???.

Andy

PS. For the record I've answered your questions to the best of my knowledge in colour above. I have tremendous respect for Paul as a coach but perspective is required.

yes put my statement about him being one of the best coaches in britain along with the one about going to wembley within 3 years. Also that we are heading to places we havent been for 33 years!!!

Question/belittle anything you want Andy, im happy with what ive put. You can think what you like.

Youve answered the questions some of which include you cant comment, werent involved etc. Give us your opinion, you have plenty in plenty disguises so cut out the BS and give us an answer. Oh and you forgot to answer one question :-

If Paul isnt the best coach in Britain who would you replace him with?

Well if you choose not to remember the past when the hit the fan I can't help you, it's like telling a born again Christian that god don't exist

=#FF0000I wouldn't replace Paul for anyone and have praised him above and im more than confident he can go on to match and in time better Darren Abrams achievements and take us to SL and beyond.


I note once again your allegations against me and your continued efforts to discredit me not to mention stain my character. I'm surprised by now you've not been informed that I am not Happy Hooker or Gutted or anyone else you may believe in your own mind that I am posting as. Indeed if truth be known I hardly ever frequent this MB these days.

For the record I have two accounts on here I can access one im currently typing on connected to my own email address and the other my missus set up with her email account in 2013 I think it was that I confess I have used in the past but not for a considerable period of time now my friend. Hence the reason I told you not to believe all your told a few weeks ago.

Similarly I read earlier in the thread you accusing Dave who I presume you are referring to Dave Peet the well respected players agent and intimating hes posting as the Watcher.

Pretty serious stuff is defamation of character so id thread very carefully if I were you mate.

Once again ive attempted to answer your question in colour above however I note not for the first time you seem to get very frustrated when challenged or proven wrong.

We have all made mistakes and can all be wrong its not a crime and nothing to get so touchy about, after all it is a message board for discussion isn't it??? and as your rather crude analogy above we all have opinions like we have bum holes.

Andy

and that had what to do with Allan?

Only common demoniator in all those times is Allans been around to try and fix it

So you knew all along,

No idea who the Dave is you refer to above mate, as for your comments above Andy, complete joke. Referencing Abram with Paul is like chalk and cheese. Youve not answered any questions in red youve said no comment, wasnt there etc. Give us your opinion. Surely in an ideal world youd want Leigh rugby to have the best coach. You joined this thread saying Paul isnt the best coach, so ive asked you who is?

Ill make this simple for you to read :-

Dear Andy,

Who do you think is the best coach in the UK?

Regards

Ste

As for your other comments just for the record as ive told you several times nobody tells me anything, but as i asked you on here a few weeks back and you refused to answer ill ask you again;

Dear Andy,

Who do you think tells me anything?

Regards

Ste

And whilst you've brought it up ill ask you another question;

Dear Andy,

Are you saying 100% that you have only ever had 2 accounts on RL Fans?

Regards

Ste

And finally Andy as stated many times on numerous threads i only ever have the utmost respect for anyone whos pumped money in, worked, played, etc for Leigh rugby club. I believe this includes you. What i dont sign up to is agreeing with everything you say and secondly putting you in for plaudits for everything we ever achieve from here on in. Plenty people over the years have helped save this club as did you. Respect to you for that but i wont be singing your praises for the next 20 years.

as for staining peoples charachters the only person to get personal is you and one of your FB friends a couple of weeks ago. Its amazing what you see and read on threads. Have a good evening and hopefully you can answer the above....



P.S - Your usually quite good at spelling but its tread not 'thread'

No thats why i asked but im glad you agree Allan's been a prominent figure in fixing the clubs problems and building again over the years

You're usually quite good at spelling aswell.

Im not Jimmy thats one of my pitfalls, andy usually pulls me up on it but youve beat him this time

That is totally childish when your own contribution contains about 20 errors.

Very quickly and my last post and communication with you on this or indeed any other topic as I've not got all day to spend arguing with folk like you seem to have so before I leave the office for the day I've answered you to the best of my knowledge above.

I'm flattered I have your utmost respect for my efforts it means a lot to me



PS its Characters.

Catch you soon off to watch MUFC hopefully beat Burnley tonight, but you never know

One thing we do agree on this is the best Leigh side in 33 years and the most exciting season I can remember ahead for our great club and great game so lets enjoy it!!!!!!

Cheers

Andy

Oh deer (or is it "Dear"icon_wink.gif Pan black Kettle calling ! Never a good sign when one has to resort to this sort of tact.

Totally agree I've had to put up with it for 4 months from Andy

Did really just read all that?

Gawd above

Couldn't agree more Reffy as said before I've had to put up with it for months

Hope Utd do win have them waiting for my winning acca.

I've no time to be arguing with you but it's you who constantly turns up challenging anything I put. You have your opinions and your entitled to them you seem to have an opinion of me that changed in recent months which I think is led from your theory I'm told certain information.

I note you got a little closer to revealing some names on my question above but again you leave it open with cryptic clues and winks.

Amazed your tracking my social events but I was on Derek's table and sat between Paul and Allan. So is it any of those 3 your on about? Cause of you think i waste any of my breath talking about you to anyone never mind the 3 people you refer to then I'm sorry to disappoint but your wrong.

Enjoy OT, Come on you reds!!

Home early from OT?