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| Riddy had his chance to shine today and didn't look like he wanted that chance to me. Not blaming him for the poor performance today but that was woeful by anyone's standards. Can't Ben Reynolds mix his kicking game up a little bit ? It's the same kick at the end of a set of 6 every week and getting really boring now . Ryan Hampshire does not bring a thing to our team and I've said it for weeks now and I will be glad to see Greg McNally back .If we don't play better and improve quickly we could struggle to pick up anymore points for a while * Fact *. A case of "Close but no cigar". Weston looked way off being match fit and was blowing after 10 mins which simply isn't good enough at this level, teams will see it and exploit it . Highlight of the day was the final whistle (Shocking is putting it mildly).
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| For me, Gaz is worth every penny. Stand out performer this year and again today.
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| I expect our first sub 6k crowd next Friday following that today
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| Quote ="DemonUK"I expect our first sub 6k crowd next Friday following that today'"
Definitely knocked 1000 off the gate after that. Need a big game next week from the boys. Over to you Jukesy
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| The gate will drop anyway it's Catalan, they aren't gonna bring thousands are they!
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| Quote ="Markypants"The gate will drop anyway it's Catalan, they aren't gonna bring thousands are they!'"
What did Widnes bring, maybe 500 ish ?
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"For me, Gaz is worth every penny. Stand out performer this year and again today.'"
Agree wholeheartedly, Gaz was a leader again today, though I begged him not to get involved in that little spat.
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| Where has our defence gone to?!
We are never going to score stacks of points - we haven't got the pace and rely heavily on close range tries. Up to last week, the defence was outstanding, but has been very poor the last couple of weeks.
Incidentally, I thought Liam Hood had an excellent game, and we were probably "at our best" ( ) when he was on the pitch. He also made what I think was our only break in the 80 minutes!
Widnes, despite their injury problems, showed us exactly what needs to be done - playing solid, safe rugby, (How many errors did they make?) and then , given half a sniff, attack clinically and ruthlessly. Strange, but that's been the best display by a visiting team to LSV - so far.
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| Widnes wanted it more which is hard to take.
That said we looked busted and tired in the second half v Wakey and save for a 15 spell today looked like a set of players who need rotation (as per last season)but the injuries have started and we don't have the depth or youth set up of established clubs.
I actually thought Hampshire improved today on recent performances but not many others played above average, it was a dreadful advert for so called top flight RL with all the trys scored looking very soft (aside from the Widnes final try which was probably obstruction), throw in a flat atmosphere and today wasn't the best.
Whilst Riddy didn't really get in the game or Weston they will benefit from a run out which will help further down the line, was pleased to see Hood back.
Widnes showed the desire and willpower we lacked and a more positive attacking desire which was enough to win!
Thought official was typical for SL, good in parts, inconsistent in others.
Going forward there's a few things to work on, same mistakes with soft technical penalties must be cut out, we need to play the opposition and not that teams history or standing in the game or league position, we need to work on quick play the balls and ball handling- some players need a week off but nothing to come in so strength in depth short term needs looking at.
Disappointing performance but room for loads of improvement.
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| Nowhere near 500. There were more bottles on the pitch in front of the stand.
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| We were awfull
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| We shouldn't be looking so tired and jaded after having 9 days since the last game
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| Quote ="frank1"We were awfull'"
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| We've got Tickle and Vea playing 80 every week. Hampshire isn't and should never be a full back.
Anyone thinking Higson is a England winger needs to give their head a wobble.
We were awful today. No excuses. Reynolds was poor. We saw today what drinkwater offers
Anyone who blames the ref for the abomination today has no clue about the game
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| Quote ="Iggy79"We've got Tickle and Vea playing 80 every week. Hampshire isn't and should never be a full back.
Anyone thinking Higson is a England winger needs to give their head a wobble.
We were awful today. No excuses. Reynolds was poor. We saw today what drinkwater offers
Anyone who blames the ref for the abomination today has no clue about the game'"
Iggy,i don't think anyone has blamed the ref today so far. My question is,does anyone know how to fix what we have produced today?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Iggy,i don't think anyone has blamed the ref today so far. My question is,does anyone know how to fix what we have produced today?'"
I'm not saying anyone has. It was in anticipation of the usual cack spouted in defence of our team
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| Quote ="Cokey"Iggy,i don't think anyone has blamed the ref today so far. My question is,does anyone know how to fix what we have produced today?'"
Derek there are a couple of guys sat at the back of me in the West Stand,they blame the Ref every week,how do we address our problems?For me our tackling needs to improve a couple of games ago we had a You're NOT going to score attitude,that ideal has vanished,and we don't look like scoring from our own half , only close to the line.
Is McNallys return one answer ?I don't think so,I also don't think Riddy is fit,and Weston looked out of his depth,I have faith in Jukesy and his backroom staff to sort it out,Jukesy isn't afraid to tell it as it is.Only Mickey,Hoppy, Hock,HH,Brown,and Crooks looked interested ,we've not become a bad team in just over a week, but do miss Drinky,get Stewart and Corey P,back and a change of attitude and we can still beat the Cats next week.Charlie knows.
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| I overlooked Sam in my post Charlie, you're right, he was solid ..... Matty Dawson got stuck in too.
Can't believe he walked that crash ball between the posts though, half the North Stand new it was coming, Widnes are every bit a poor side, just not as poor as us today.
Get Cory & Stewart back & get Dayne fit & we will be ok, Pellisier is a hot/cold type, we need him on the boil.
DB, Jukesy & Co should be on the hunt for a centre but not get the 1st that comes available, then get Mitch back to FB. Rocky needs some mentoring I think.
Should we survive this season then I foresee several personel changes for 2018.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Derek there are a couple of guys sat at the back of me in the West Stand,they blame the Ref every week,=#40FF00how do we address our problems?For me our tackling needs to improve a couple of games ago we had a You're NOT going to score attitude,that ideal has vanished,and we don't look like scoring from our own half , only close to the line.
Is McNallys return one answer ?I don't think so,I also don't think Riddy is fit,and Weston looked out of his depth,I have faith in Jukesy and his backroom staff to sort it out,Jukesy isn't afraid to tell it as it is.Only Mickey,Hoppy, Hock,HH,Brown,and Crooks looked interested ,we've not become a bad team in just over a week, but do miss Drinky,get Stewart and Corey P,back and a change of attitude and we can still beat the Cats next week.Charlie knows.
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You start by never underestimating the opposition.This one is a learning curve for Juksey in my eyes.
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| A chill pill is in order. As a newly promoted Championship side it was always going to take time to adapt to Super League. And from the first 6 games, zero were penciled in as winners - and they won 3. This is probably the come down from that emotion. And it was evident last year that Ridyard and Drinkwater are a dynamic partnership. Patience is required on that one.
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| Quote ="atomic"You start by never underestimating the opposition.This one is a learning curve for Juksey in my eyes.'"
Atomic, I've been saying all week Widnes wouldn't come to the LSV and lie down, they proved me right,they looked eager and hungry,whereas we looked tired and jaded,I really do think Jukesy will sort out the problems but we must get back to tackling hard next week .
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| Hpck and Hansen ok rest were crap
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"charlie how are you pal , blaming the ref when your team is losing is a product of being a rl fan . i much prefer constructive criticism. regarding riddy , neil said he is fit , i get told he is in the top 5 in fitness stats at leigh . riddyis a local lad who wears the badge with pride it must have been hard not getting in the side but riddy will not lie down . he will prove people wrong like he did several times before . mcnally is not the answer believe me . neil as a tough job on the expectations of some leigh fans after a couple of wins against some poor sides . better to look at the big picture . this current team needs scrapping and start again , easy said than done i know but this current team won't last another season in sl . according to derek he as spent 1.25 m on reaching sl well he will have to spend that year in year out as he spent this years money ? we need a younger squad not aged aussies and over paid pension seeking players i would like to know who advised derek on players . i don't think this is neil's team it's dereks coached by neil the vea signing was a mistake . tickle is no longer a super league player green is a disaster this is my opinion i know we all have one .'"
Good evening Keith, myself I could be better, had a poor couple of weeks recently, but plenty worse off than me so I'm not moaning,thanks for asking anyway.
I always respect your views and opinions as you know the game inside out,its only my opinion on Riddys fitness there could be another problem elsewhere,I was never convinced about Vea though he did improve recently, was very ineffective today though,as where Green, Weston, and Tickle,I'm not privy to what the players earn ,it's not really my business but I do think we must improve in the next few weeks ,with Salford ,Hull, and Saints coming up after the Cats game,we need to get Drinky back on field soon , but it doesn't look likely,I'm not sure what the answer is in the halves,today's result could be the kick up the rear we need , I do hope.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Atomic, I've been saying all week Widnes wouldn't come to the LSV and lie down, they proved me right,they looked eager and hungry,whereas we looked tired and jaded,I really do think =#00FF00Jukesy will sort out the problems but we must get back to tackling hard next week .'"
No way he picked that Charlie..This lark of picking the squad a week before game day,isn't a head coach call.
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| Hampshire is OK but not a Super League fullback
Dawson was good, the centres were hot & cold , Higson was awful.
Reynolds' play was too predictable, Ridyard was anonymous.
The pack was second rate, Higham, Hock & Hopkins were the pick of a bad bunch, Weston is not a SL prop.
We were second best by a long way and the bubble isn't burst but it is leaking.
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