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| Can we see Lineham fitting back into the 13 when hes back from the ban or do we think hes out? Personally i think hes out.
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| As long as Price is our coach, Lineham is pretty undroppable.
He's a big unit, so he suits driving the ball up, to take work from our props
He scores tries, particularly in big games
Plus, he's a name. Price likes names
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| Hard to tell. He is very good at bringing the ball away from our line, but has done too many daft things resulting in bans. A very good finisher as well. I can see him coming back in, Charnley being given a rest, and Ashton moved across to the other wing. Either way, three into two doesn't go, and I suspect Ashton will be sacrificed by Price.
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| King to second row, charnley to centre? Lineham should be in, people forget how good he is. We have 4 quality wing options at the minute but mamo is out injured.
I personally prefer the look of
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3 Gelling
4 Charnley
5 Ashton
11 king
12 currie
13 Hughes
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2 Ashton
3 King
4 Gelling
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13 J Clark
I would prefer charnley at centre over hughes and Clark being on the pitch at the same time. BMM coming back would change things though. I'd have him straight in at starting 13.
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| Quote ="CW8"King to second row, charnley to centre? Lineham should be in, people forget how good he is. We have 4 quality wing options at the minute but mamo is out injured.
I personally prefer the look of
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3 Gelling
4 Charnley
5 Ashton
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4 Gelling
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12 j Hughes
13 J Clark
I would prefer charnley at centre over hughes and Clark being on the pitch at the same time. BMM coming back would change things though. I'd have him straight in at starting 13.'"
Imagine moving the leagues in form centre to the back row.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Imagine moving the leagues in form centre to the back row.'"
Imagine playing Hughes and j Clark together in the back row and the ball moving freely between the forwards and the backs! King would be just as effective in the second row, he's a top player.
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| I would have Lineham in the team. I wouldn’t have Charley in the centres, as far as I know he only ever played there as a stop gap. In fact I really worry about Charnley who seems to be blunted as an attacking winger at present.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I would have Lineham in the team. I wouldn’t have Charley in the centres, as far as I know he only ever played there as a stop gap. In fact I really worry about Charnley who seems to be blunted as an attacking winger at present.'"
We are lacking options a little at the moment. In all honesty as much as I don't like a negative back row we have far more options in back row than centre so better to stick with what we have in the centres. Charnley must be shattered from taking carries at the minute.
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| I think Lineham comes back in. The weak link for me at the moment is Charnley, he just doesn’t look like a threat with the ball. A break might do him good.
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| Charnley at centre. Give over. People already complain we struggle to attack in the opposition 20. Charnley throws the worst dummy I've ever seen and nobody would buy it. Lineham and Charnley on the wing. King and Gelling centres. Work it out in other positions.
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| Quote ="Robwire"I think Lineham comes back in. The weak link for me at the moment is Charnley, he just doesn’t look like a threat with the ball. A break might do him good.'"
Given our injuries and suspensions combined with his work rate I would think charnley would be one of the first names on the team sheet after daz clark, ratchford, King and cooper, it's not charnleys fault that he is being used as a small prop! Our problems dont lie in the back 5.
I do think he will need a break before the end of the season though, he's played every match and has been worked really hard in all of them.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Charnley at centre. Give over. People already complain we struggle to attack in the opposition 20. Charnley throws the worst dummy I've ever seen and nobody would buy it. Lineham and Charnley on the wing. King and Gelling centres. Work it out in other positions.'"
What would your thoughts have been on mamo at centre at the start of the season? I. Personally thought he would have been useless there, I was wrong. I could be wrong about the possibility of charnley at centre as well and let's face it we aren't likely to see it are we. He's doing alright at prop for the time being anyway.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"As long as Price is our coach, Lineham is pretty undroppable.
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Plus, he's a name. Price likes names'"
I think this 'charge' has been levelled at virtually every Warrington coach since the 70's.
DVDV - his Aussie mates
Can't remember who, but Rocky Turner and Paul Bishop.
Smith and Asotasi etc etc
Coaches always have their favourites and as long as it's based on performance I've no problem with that. And therein lies the problem.
There are a wide range of views on what constitutes performance.
Jason Clark is currently in the firing line - I'm not saying whether that's justified or not, just that that's what many of the peeps on here say.
I think we use Charnley and Lineham far more as an aid to our forwards than we used in the past - partly because of the way the game is played now, partly because of out lack of effective props and they are working to the coaches tactics.
And this is why we won't get the out and out try scoring Charnley that existed at Wigan.
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| Perhaps it would shake our attack up a bit if we wrong footed defences occasionally by throwing the ball about from tackle one instead of our forwards running into traffic for 3 or 4 plays.
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| I think it’s time we picked one out of Hughes, Jason clark, and Davies, 3 of the same type of players in a team will never work, my preference would be Davies as he runs harder.
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"I think it’s time we picked one out of Hughes, Jason clark, and Davies, 3 of the same type of players in a team will never work, my preference would be Davies as he runs harder.'"
Hughes is a good player, he doesn't make many mistakes and his defence is fantastic. Every team needs a workhorse and hughes is a good one, I just wish he would release the ball a bit more. I don't think matt Davies is the same as the other 2, he is more dynamic, he's improving and he also covers 9 at a push. Totally agree with Hughes and Clark though, pick one and have the other on the bench. They're both good players I just don't think the combination works very well.
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| Quote ="CW8"What would your thoughts have been on mamo at centre at the start of the season? I. Personally thought he would have been useless there, I was wrong. I could be wrong about the possibility of charnley at centre as well and let's face it we aren't likely to see it are we. He's doing alright at prop for the time being anyway.'"
I think Mamo would be great at centre. But I'm not moving King. Maybe put Gelling in the second row. He runs harder than King and has scattered a couple players for half breaks doing that. I think Charnley and Lineham are fine as is. Doing what they do. They can still score tries if we get the numbers. Which we aren't doing unfortunately.
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| Straight back in for me but anymore brain farts and get rid.
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| I think Charnley strike rate on the right edge has suffered in recent times as we sometimes have 2 players who prefer to run the ball rather than passing it - Austin and BMM.
Compare Austin to Briers who was sometimes criticised for not taking the line on enough. Perhaps a bit frustrating for Briers to understand how a player cannot execute some plays like he did but like comparing apples and oranges.
Another thing that I have noticed is that Ratchford looks like he prefers to pop op on the left edge.
So maybe we have a combination of predominant runners and if the pass is made then those players may not as confident at passing to their right.
When charnley does get the ball the passes are not always on the button. He often has to stop or reach into the air to collect that allows the defender to adjust.
I am not too sure his work in yardage is hampering his try scoring.
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| Quote ="fez1"I think this 'charge' has been levelled at virtually every Warrington coach since the 70's.
DVDV - his Aussie mates
Can't remember who, but Rocky Turner and Paul Bishop.
Smith and Asotasi etc etc
Coaches always have their favourites and as long as it's based on performance I've no problem with that. And therein lies the problem.'"
Yes and when a new coach comes in he has different takes on players and the fans get all excited as he's suddenly willing to drop players.
TS when he arrived - "willing to tell it like it is to Briers and ship Gleeson out, shows that it doesn't matter who you are in this regime you have to perform or get out"
TS at the end - "keeps picking the same old faces and doesn't give lads like Patton or Savelio a chance"
Price when he arrived - "willing to drop Atkins and ship Matty Russell out, shows that it doesn't matter who you are in this regime you have to perform or get out"
Price at the end - "he likes to pick names"
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| Quote ="CW8"Hughes is a good player, he doesn't make many mistakes and his defence is fantastic. Every team needs a workhorse and hughes is a good one, I just wish he would release the ball a bit more. I don't think matt Davies is the same as the other 2, he is more dynamic, he's improving and he also covers 9 at a push. Totally agree with Hughes and Clark though, pick one and have the other on the bench. They're both good players I just don't think the combination works very well.'"
I agree with everything apart from re J Clark. I think he gets dominated in the tackle and we lose yards and momentum as a result.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"As long as Price is our coach, Lineham is pretty undroppable.
He's a big unit, so he suits driving the ball up, to take work from our props
He scores tries, particularly in big games
Plus, he's a name. Price likes names'"
Price had dropped Lineham from the squad more than once.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Lineham and Charnley on the wing. King and Gelling centres. Work it out in other positions.'"
Agree with this. Lineham straight back in.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I agree with everything apart from re J Clark. I think he gets dominated in the tackle and we lose yards and momentum as a result.'"
Agreed. Clark is simply not good enough. He makes very little metres and tackles. I'd rather Doro play there.
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| Everybody bangs on about Clark does all the unseen stuff and hard yards etc........no he doesn't.....why does everyone think that? Because they've read somewhere that's wht he was like at the Rabbitohs?
His go forward is simply run forward get tackled and make no metres....ever and that's about all he brings to the table.
Davis is Faster, more aggressive, fitter and more energetic, so for me leave Clark out Davis has his spot permanently and give Doro or Robson his place, Robson has done much more than him in the 3-4 games i've seen him play than all the time Clark has played for us i don't care what other people say.
He'll be here next year even if it's just to settle inglis in, but for me he's a "Utility" player we really don't need at all.
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