Nosey parker carried a story on Monday that cas head of youth development and u19 coach had been tempted along the m62 by the wire anyone heard anything

I’m encouraged by any attempt to increase the success of the youth programme - we’ve had plenty of talented young players who haven’t really reached heir potential despite looking as good or better than their contemporaries in other clubs. The failure of many may well be with the weakness of the bridge between the youth and first team structures. Price has already been addressing this.

One issue that makes this story a bit suspect is that IF we are to poach Cas’s head of youth we’d need him living this way. We’ve already seen that Price has identified a prior issue where the first team coaches didn’t have any input into the youth sessions which are taken at night. Our first team coaches didn’t have that opportunity (or maybe motivation?) since they lived over the Pennines. I’m really encouraged by the changes Price is making behind the scenes, I just hope he’s got the actual x-factor when it comes to coaching the team to grand final success. Maybe Henderson and Leulai will provide a nice balance in managing the players to complement Price’s hard-line style.

Story suggested they were indeed upping sticks and relocating

Done deal, pete riding your new head of youth

Sounds like a good deal for us.

He joined Cas ahead of the 2014 season and was well respected for his work at Hudds prior to that. Good recruitment I think. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=3811 So is that Phil Jones on his way then? What about Peter Farrell too.

He joined Cas ahead of the 2014 season and was well respected for his work at Hudds prior to that. Good recruitment I think. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=3811 So is that Phil Jones on his way then? What about Peter Farrell too.

Quote ="Wires71"He joined Cas ahead of the 2014 season and was well respected for his work at Hudds prior to that. Good recruitment I think. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=3811 So is that Phil Jones on his way then? What about Peter Farrell too.'" Wasn't Farrell Head of Talent ID or something? Guess he would be unaffected, unless the new guy wanted to bring in a new team...

Quote ="Wires71"He joined Cas ahead of the 2014 season and was well respected for his work at Hudds prior to that. Good recruitment I think. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=3811 So is that Phil Jones on his way then? What about Peter Farrell too.'" Wasn't Farrell Head of Talent ID or something? Guess he would be unaffected, unless the new guy wanted to bring in a new team...

Phil Jones left the club last week, on his twitter feed cited that he was "moving onto pastures new"...

Words from the man himself:

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We always seem to talk a good game when it comes to our youth, but don't seem to have the same volume of young players coming through as Wigan / Leeds / Saints etc etc. Hopefully this will be the start of an improvement in this area.

Saints?.... they are worse than Wire!
3 decent players, two hookers and Briers, in 2 decades...4 if you want to include scouse Jammer...who left before hitting his peak.

List ours Rubber.

A little harsh on Saints maybe... they’ve had some superstars - Cunningham, Wellens, Roby, Eastmond. Then they’ve had some ‘good’ players Percival, Makinson, Greenwood, Morgan. They’ve certainly had more success with their youth than we have. I think the likes of Laithwaite, Evans and Co may have become more established players by now under Saints. Possibly. They had the raw talent.

Regrding James Graham, I’m not sure he was a product of their youth system. Didn’t he sign from Waterloo RU?

Harris Sculthorpe...come on how far are we having to go back...I can top trump you on anything Saints.

I thought you said 2 decades.

Exactly.
Now I think we know Saints and Wire are both shat at youth development.

Saints may not be up to the Wigan / Leeds standard but they are a step ahead of us.

Lomax
Grace
Percival
Makinson
Knowles
Thompson
Roby

All in the Saints fist choice 17 this year I expect - we can't match that. Only probably Currie, Cooper and maybe one of Livett/Smith/Patton on the bench.

I think they also went through the academy season unbeaten last year? Possibly the year before.

Saints have brought a lot of good players through their Academy system over many years, to try and say they aren't good at junior development is ridiculous.

Since the Harris and Sculthorpe era (when we also brought through other players who became solid SL pros in Hilton, Wainwright, Penny and Roper) basically we have brought through Paul Wood, Chris Riley and Mike Cooper as players who have been good quality SL players over a long period, plus one outstanding talent in Ben Currie, and one player who drifted out but showed surprising resilience to fight back in to the top flight in Kevin Penny.

That is about it, and plenty on here liked to slag off Chris Riley who was one of our better finds...

Well you argue a case so I'll except Saints are perhaps are a step ahead of us(a step mind you)...while the pair of us are a marathon off the Pies and a half marathon off Leeds.

....however, Simon Middleton is keen on Wire to have the best youth development in SL....
We are the only team paying and offering big transfer fees on academy players along local finds.

I heard there was some board discontent that deals for some well regarded youth targets and top players, were falling through after looking a done deal, following the final chat with former coaching personal.
This could be the driving reason to appoint new staff.

I am delighted the club is making statements about making our youth policy the best, it has under delivered for a long, long, time. I appreciate the list Sally produced but how many of those would have got into a title aspiring side. We have produced 2 internationals in 20 years - Cooper and Currie and the latter actually came through the Wigan system.

Anyhow, looking positively, we now have a club that is prepared to invest in the best youth and also spend money in getting the first team talent now until that delivers.

joe greenwood.

Yeah, I was going to list the Saints academy players at other SL/Top Championship clubs as I feel that's a great indicator of your strength at youth level, but I took the easy route and looked at their 2018 squad instead!

One issue that we have had from my experience was that Warrington offered substantially more than the players home town (and u16s) club. Player has gone back and negotiated with hometown club who improved their offer (but didn't match Warrington's). And then the player has been swayed by loyalty and previous record of home town team so signed for them. This is something that is difficult for Warrington unless the Warrington area start producing talent.

Yes.
This I've said on here a couple of times in the past...however it does make it difficult to debate the point when the overlooked lads don't kick on at our rivals.

Youth development is a two way street. If a club is so called investing in youth it also needs to invest in persevering with young players to give them confidence. A player will not develop if he is constantly shipped in & out of the team for tying his bootlaces wrong. I am not surprised our young players have not developed ,either in skill or confidence,under the previous regime.