It's time to be brutally honest.

I've just paid £21 to watch a Warrington side who were out enthused, out battled, out thought and out scored.

Big changes are needed and we need to act decisively. I'm fed up of hearing 'things didn't go our way ' 'we we out enthused' 'we were sloppy'. I want to hear 'we are SHIT and we're going to do something about it!

We have no pace in our game, our pack is lightweight, we commit far too many unforced errors, we have lacked a kicking game and we look shattered.

Firstly, Agar thanks but see you later. Fitness coach from Wigan, TS must have been drunk when he brought him in, see you later.

Tony Smith need to stay....its players that need to go!!! Asotasi,Wheeler,Harrison,Monoghan, O'Brien and Atkins plus Myler and Bridge. Some have been great players but no room for sentiment!

We need a minimum 3 BIG signings otherwise top 4 next year, see you later!!!!!

I KNOW that they spent full cap 2009-2012 seasons from the accounts that were presented to the owner by the then CEO in 2012 as a reason for the name change and then the move.....proving money won't buy you success, especially if you employ s!

and as i said after the same thing last week, how do you just "get rid" of players under contract?

Make them available for transfer, publically issue a 'there not in our plans' and make it clear to them they won't play'. Now is the best time with nothing left to play four!

I must admit Tony Smith is starting to frustrate me with his nonchalant attitude - like he's commenting on something he has no stake in. It's like he doesn't feel under any pressure for the teams results. Untouchable even.

We could try hosting a party with plenty of drink. Towards the end of the evening bring in a few dogs and take photos of players pretending to get pleasured by threm? Could work although Gary Wheeler would get injured having his first drink, Roy would go home within 15 minutes of the party starting, Harrison would drop his own 'member' trying to get it near the dog and ratchford would let the dog get past him when he was last man.

and supposing no one wants to sign them, how do you then get them off the salary cap to enable other players to be brought in? you can't loan an entire team to wakefield

Teflon Tony

It's all gone pear shaped

I agree that Smith just does not really look interested or bothered at the moment, it's a really weird vibe at the moment.

That 2017 expiry date on Atkins' contract looks ever more painful

I genuinely don't see Harrison as bad as he is made out to be on here. One of our few players big enough, he makes offloads and loads of tackles. Does he knock-on sometimes? Yes, but hardly the sign of a useless forward. When he gets a few back to back games under his belt he will be fine.

Harrison cops a lot of ridiculous flack on here, we'd really miss his industry if he went. Which he won't, because Tony isn't an idiot.

Like I say, I'm a fan of his, have beenb.forever, but those bloody knock ons seem to have become ba hallmark of his this year.

Harrison made 2 errors last night. Which was 1 less than Atkins & Ratchford.

I dont think Harrison is a bad player... i just think its a struggle for him to stay fit these days... While his defense is top notch, he is very slow and offers very little with the ball (as do alot of our players).

Hopefully Ben Harrison goes back to the bench as an interchange prop next season as we wont lose that much when comes on to spell Sims or Hill. Asotasi and England replacing these 2 of the bench is killing us at the min. We need a hell of a lot to fix this side hopefully the players we have coming in will help fix our problems but hopefully we have another 3/4 coming in we dont know about. Hughes may actually be our best signing so far as he gives us some different options with our pack for next season

Becks, you make some very good points. But the blame for all of these problems, lies squarely with Tony Smith. Agar didn't turn up and give himself the job.

I'm sick to death of the 'out enthused' thing. Far too many times this year we have been humiliated by sides who simply wanted it more. That is inexcusable.

Watch Luke Dorn on Sky Sports after the game, he talks repeatedly about 'finals football'. Cas went in there motivated. We didn't look interested, from the Chief Exec meddling with the badge midseason to certain players who should be ashamed of themselves.

Last Easter, many posters on here patronised Cas and wrote about how their bubble would burst etc. they may not go on to Old Trafford, but they have made us look very stupid for two years now. They may not have our budget or facilities, but they have developed a culture which money can't buy.

Good post G/O