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| It is a fair point to say both players got up straight away, but on another pitch on another day, someone won't get up & won't be able to play again. There is another 90% of the body that can be tackled to stop a player & it is those techniques that should be getting coached. Cynical & potentially dangerous head high tackles need to be outlawed full stop.
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| One other thing that ed me off last night, kick chasers being interfered with, it was a ing joke. Just watching the first half, Marshall has just took Evans out with a blatant body check
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| Most enjoyable game I've watched this year. I think the way the game was officiated was the main reason for this.
As for aggressive shots and wreckless tackles... Why didn't Warrington give some back. Thaler had set his standereds through the game. Warrington should have jumped on board.
Not fussed over the first two warm up games but this was enjoyable. Warrington will do well this season and this game won't hurt there confidence, only improve it.
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| On the other foot, St Georges kick chase, and example to most in the SL, our kick chase is NRL like but plenty in SL look like they can't be bothered.
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| Too right Yed.
The high bombs from GOB where not high enough, not allowing time for our players to create a presence and give their fb something to worry about.
At one of those bombs a only Wheeler tried to give chase. He is only half the size of their fb and wingers!
Every high bomb ought to be chased by ALL of our tallest players and some.
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| At first sight the tackle on Penny looked like a red card. But after watching the replay the tackle hits him on the chest and comes up. What made it look worse was the St. George player had both feet off the ground so there was potential for the tackle to go wrong and maybe a sin binning would have been appropriate.
I though Laithwaite was outstanding and got through a lot of work for you.
Back to one of my favourite topics, I honestly believe that Wire lacked craft from dummy half and half back. Had Michael Monaghan and/or Lee Briers played you would have won that game.
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| Ref had obviously been told to officiate the game as though it was a friendly (ie, keep your cards in your pocket) which was a real shame as it took credibility away from the occasion. Penny's was a straight red, which I could forgive Thaler for not seeing but what really got me was the holding down after a break in the second half. As soon as the penalty was awarded it has to be ten minutes, that is mandatory. Folks in the North Stand paid £40, presumably to see more than a friendly. Both teams certainly went at it in a fashion more than a friendly. So why was it refereed as a friendly?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"At first sight the tackle on Penny looked like a red card. But after watching the replay the tackle hits him on the chest and comes up. What made it look worse was the St. George player had both feet off the ground so there was potential for the tackle to go wrong and maybe a sin binning would have been appropriate. '"
If you don't think that was a red card it would be interesting to know what you think does deserve a red card, perhaps we should rewind a couple of years to a game at Huddersfield and Chris Bridge's contribution?
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| I've seen less given a red and far worse ignored. That's RL. For all you having a winge, think of Briers punching Ablett in the back of the head, a true coward act, never in a million years should it have been just a pen. You win some you lose some. wire fans should be more concered with multiple knock on's at the play the ball.
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| Best game I've seen in a good while. Thaler really let the game flow, only mistake was not showing a yellow or two. I thought Warrington gave it a good go and did Superleague proud. The main difference between the two teams was St George's half backs and their superior kicking game.
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| Quote ="theredshed"Best game I've seen in a good while. Thaler really let the game flow, only mistake was not showing a yellow or two. I thought Warrington gave it a good go and did Superleague proud. The main difference between the two teams was St George's half backs and their superior kicking game.'"
This.
I'd go a little further, your too kind on the Wire kicking game.
It was shat.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
Back to one of my favourite topics, I honestly believe that Wire lacked craft from dummy half and half back. Had Michael Monaghan and/or Lee Briers played you would have won that game.'"
Disappointed in Darryl Clarke, despite him scoring a fabulous try in the Hull game he has been very very ordinary in the Salford and St George games.
His first decent scoot from dummy half came mid way through the second half.
Michael Monaghan would have ran at George Rose every second he was on the pitch.
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| Agree with you biscuit, we looked far more dangerous with Higham on.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Agree with you biscuit, we looked far more dangerous with Higham on.'" Clarke was solid if nothing else. He made zero errors.
Higham came on and put the ball to ground on tackle one or two.
That put St G on the front foot. We're behind. Beaten.
I am totally opposite in my opinion who ought to be at 9.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane" perhaps we should rewind a couple of years to a game at Huddersfield and Chris Bridge's contribution?'"
I could be wrong but I thought it was the game at Bradford that was the 'issue'
Also Daryl has only played 4 games for us, only 2 of which really meant something.
He is class pure class.
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| Many of us are down after last night so, as usual, individual players are being criticised even when there's no obvious lack of commitment on their part. However, if the referee had applied normal Super League standards the likelihood is that we would have won and everyone would be happy. The players would be viewed as gods and talked of for the next 50 years. Clearly any sporting team in the world could in theory be improved by the inclusion of new players but that's not the issue. Instead, once again the problem lies in the referees interpreting the rule book in favour of the Australians. Eric Clay must be turning in his grave.
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| Quote ="silver2"Many of us are down after last night so, as usual, individual players are being criticised even when there's no obvious lack of commitment on their part. However, if the referee had applied normal Super League standards the likelihood is that we would have won and everyone would be happy. The players would be viewed as gods and talked of for the next 50 years. Clearly any sporting team in the world could in theory be improved by the inclusion of new players but that's not the issue. Instead, once again the problem lies in the referees interpreting the rule book in favour of the Australians. Eric Clay must be turning in his grave.'"
Are many of us down after last night? I don't see it on here and I didn't see it last night. We were beaten by a better kicking game and a lack of composure with the ball when we had it. Referees can influence games there's no doubt, but, when the first high shot went un-carded, yellow for mine then, we all knew the script for the evening didn't we?
Each team had a period of dominance in the game and I'm quite encouraged for the rest of the season and certainly not down. Come on Silver2 keep your beak up there's lot's of positives
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| Wasn't Evans the nearest man to their try line when he was pulled back?
So no penalty try then.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"
Come on Silver2 keep your beak up there's lot's of positives'"
Ah, yes when I referred to "us" I didn't really mean to include myself. Ive seen too many defeats over the years for it to bother me anymore.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Are many of us down after last night? I don't see it on here and I didn't see it last night.'"
The knob in the crowd next to me got very emotional towards the end, threatened to kill me, then said hes going to St Helens on Sunday to laugh when they lose.
Dont think he also realised im a Widnes fan haha.
Such hate towards the Saints!
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| A cliche I know but you must get the small details right(the aussies do),wire knocked on at the play the ball at least twice to my memory relieving pressure on both occasions and why the halves insisted on putting the ball aerial every time baffled me.A great contest for the neutral though.
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| As long as the rules on head high tackles revert back to normal after the series then I'm fine. Players welfare should be paramount.
As for the game, we made too many errors and had a bobbins kicking game.
Best team won.
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| St George were expert at protecting the reciever catching the ball . The defenders made certain they knew where the attackers were running and got in their line early enough to make it hard to give a pen. Against SL opposition Joel would have scored at least a couple.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"One other thing that vexed me off last night, kick chasers being interfered with, it was a loving joke. Just watching the first half, Marshall has just took Evans out with a blatant body check'"
There was loads of that sort of niggly crap going on. I don't watch much NRL so can't say if that's par for the course down there, but it was frustrating to watch. They were the better side, definitely, but some of their 'gamesmanship' was a bit hard to take.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Pretty much my take on it, people making out our players need protection...yet both players jumped straight back up with zero injury, i thought the first was a yellow personally one for high and two because he breaks the line, he doesn't get hit and i think he'd of run through and scored.
Imagine if last night had been officiated by James Child, he penalises everything, he has no thought for the fans and just letting it go.'"
On the contrary, he didn't let the game flow. He refused to give penalties for lying on and slowing the ruck down, which in turn made for a turgid second half.
St G adapted better by lying on at all times and knowing they would not be penalised - not a pretty sight. For some reason Wire did not lie on or slow the St G game down as, if they had adopted the St G tactics they would probably have won the game.
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