And to think we are losing two of our best defenders next year in Myler & Bridge ...OMG. Joel in the centre ? He can be a turnstile in defence.

Bear in mind Sandow will be in the line and he cannot defend. Most missed tackles in the NRL.

I'm hoping that Brian McDermott isn't aware of this. Seeing as he, along with most other top SL coaches, regularly pops by here to pick up coaching tips and player analysis from our undoubted experts we really don't want to feed him any useful information.

Lol I think Sandows missed tackle stats are very much in the public domain!

It's a fact that pretty much everyone involved in Rugby league be them a pro, amateur, a wire fan, opposition fan or Internet know all, is of the opinion we have to rebuild our squad. .....

Why is that?? we have the same owner the same coach. ....It isn't a key board coach that has allowed the quality to drop....

I don't understand the pop at fans on a forum explaining our very obvious frailties and our rank poor performers.

I personally think Smith has lost his way.

If Cullen was in charge we'd all be imploding at the fact this was our easiest route to Wembley. ....ever. ....and we failed. .....

I'm still loving annoyed at the whole state of affairs.

Apparently if you discuss Tony smith selections ,your not fans just keyboard coaches !! Sorry for having an opinion

I'm of the opinion that Smith should stay, recruitment for next season looks good. However Joel should NOT be captain next season (I'm not convinced a winger ever should be) and can we stop going for charge downs please!

I'm happy to have TS as our coach next season but, other coaches would be gone by now and if we were really a Big club would we accept failure so easily ??

Tony Smith has one more year on his contract so he has got to stay. If he fails next year he will go along with Agar.

Talking of props, isn't Craig Kopczek off contract at Huddersfield. Good solid prop, 28yrs old 6'4 and 17st. Could do a decent job for us IF he is actually off contract? What do people think of him? I like him and I am praying to god there is a surprise prop in the works for 2016 or I'll be left scratching my head in disbelief

IMO he's average and is one of the aspects that's holding Hudds back from winning trophies and is why they're bringing in props for next season as their big signings.

It seems we're not in the market for a prop after all.
Promoting within. I believe there'll be no change to the starting two of Hill and Sim but the interchange looks likely to be Westwood and Harrison/Philbin.

Hughes set to be a starting backrower, with the likes of Leithwaite and Wilde.

I think you'll find the highly rated James Maloney has the honour of most missed tackles ,I don't think we've signed Chris for his tackling ability

the day we bring in a HB because 'he has oustanding defence' is the day we should give up and go home.

Interesting that we are not confirming that Sandow is our Marquee signing ,I do feel the club have a big name possibly lined up

Perhaps Cutter...we have no need too because we arnt making any more signings and the whole squad is under cap?

Missed Tackle stats should be read with a huge portion of context.

Super League's 'worst' is Albert Kelly.
Also in the Top Ten are Tyrone McCarthy, Mike McIllorum and Elliot Whitehead.

Ben Westwood misses most tackles for us.

Benny plays 80mins not 15 or 35mins.
In that context you point out, if he plays longer and makes mores tackles then his chances of missing more than our props also increases.
Then you need to consider fatigue when factoring percentage of missed tackles.
6% missed from an 80 mins stint maybe more credible than 2% missed off a 15 min stint.

Makes more sense as a percentage otherwise the harder the player works the more the missed tackle count will rise.

Sandow is still second in the NRL missed tackle count and that is on a low overall tackle stat. He hasn't adjusted his technique from the shoulder charge (which was a high risk anyway).

sounds very briers esque. Certainly in some of the highlights, his penchant for nicking interceptions makes you think he's of a similar mindset in defence.

Another thing, will we see an upturn in form for Asotasi? there was an article in the league express last week that he was singing his praises something rotten, will the arrival of his mate lead to a swansong? of which we'll all probably be quite bitter about, this late in the day?

Asotasi is an enigma wrapped in a conundrum. No doubt he has wanted to do well but he just hasn't.

We can all speculate why, he hasn't suffered from injuries from what I know so not sure why he fails to have an impact?

To much bike riding, he's our very own Chris Froome

Props please.
Big ugly hard running nasty bar steward. Enough div2 experiments. Enough over the hill crocked overseas props.

Because he's a lazy, bone idle f##kwit

Hope that helps.

I apologise.

Sandow's high number of missed tackles is because he doesn't want to tackle.