Let's not kid ourselves. We are bang average, occasionally we play above it and all too many times below it.
We must keep rebuilding, and players must go as they clearly not good enough or are no longer good enough.

Myler-gone

GOB-out
Asotasi-out
England-out
Joel-out

Not sure I agree with Joel but add Wheeler to that list and move Atkins.

Atkins went missing for about an hour in that game.

There'll all under contract bar asotasi.

Sorry to say but GOB is not a SL calibre half back.
Too many errors, kicking game is hit and miss.

Were you grabbing a beer when he scored his try. He took it so well and lots of centres would not have scored it. He'll do for me.

That is true about contract players but they are not good enough. Ship them out to South Wales, I don't care where.

England is as mobile as an old English oak tree.
Joel.Thank you for the good years but no sentiment, got caught by a prop forward over just ten years and he had to turn and gave a yard start.
Asotasi. What point. Spends 60mins day on his backside.
GOB, kicking game was atrocious AGAIN! No more excuses because he did so well last week.

GOB is playing average in an average team. When he played during 2012/13 he was a very good prospect behind a great team.

Hughes looks a done deal, Seems we are getting one more player, needs to be a top class prop to come off the bench

HAS to be a prop. TS comments about Roy though has me doubting...

That is exactly right, we desperately need a good prop. The Anthony England experiment is over as far as I am concerned. He was contracted until 2016 back in 2014, so I am hoping that is a 1yr plus 1 yr club option. He is far too slow and for 114 Kg and 6' 5'' seems unable to make full use of his bulk. Pity, but time to draw a line under it. Trouble is, I suspect TS is not looking for one. Even if he was, it took him 2 years to find a HB.

I get the feeling that Moran is fed up signing 2nd rate players and has beens , though we'll have to see how Gidley works out ,a few newcastle fans seem glad to see the back of him ,quite a few players days are numbered

Atkins
England
GOB
Asotasi
and yes, i agree with Monaghan as well.. absolutely no pace whatsoever.. painfully slow. Any other winger would have scored that try in the corner... he just didn't have the legs to get there... He is taking up a quota spot and he is probably one of our top earners as well... thanks for your years of service but if this seasons displays are anything to go by the time is up for him i think.

I've said I wasn't sure of the need for a prop of late but today really highlighted again that we are in desperate need of one. A fast bullet mean machine offloader!

As for those players under contract; let's sell them!

We do not need one more prop, we need two, Asotasi & England are not very good are they(understatment).

I'm hoping that SJM will pull rank and sign us one wether TS wants it or not.
England frustrates the hell out of me W/O for the very reason you point out. He is a plod when on form and tree when not. If he at least would fall forwards when "timberrrrr!" Is called at the tackle, he make more yards than he would with his feet!

Easily pleased then if you want a guy who scores the odd try then does bugger all rest of the match.

Doubt we'll see a contract extension for Wheeler anytime soon.....

I want to see Philbin developed into a prop. I think he's one of few who played well today and he's only 20, will be a decent player imo.

Huge Joel fan but , I have to admit he's too slow ,whether TS has other plans for him next year we will see but, Lineham is obviously the man for the wing spot

JP did good as did Sims and Hill.
Very disappointed with TS. He makes howlers and saves them all for the biggest games.
His history makes him untouchable.
Today he took Sims and Hill of far too soon.

It took him until 25 mins from time before he addressed his error and put four props out all at once. At that point we pulled back but the hole TS created was too deep to fill.

If we can single out players I'm singling out TS for his dumb decisions.

We need 2 good quality front rowers to compete + Hill. Simms talks the talk but ultimately falls short. The other two are not the standard we need. Compare our pack to that in 2011. Sad times.

I think we all agree Asotasi and England are history

I thought the decision to take Sims off was correct and as much due to the two passes his attempted in our own half which gifted posession to the opposition at a time when we should have been maintaining steady pressure.

Someone needs a word in his ear and tell him he isn't a ball-handling prop, or Mark Thomas with long hair and an Aussie accent but a hard-running no-frills second-row/prop, and please stick to it.

However, I'd agree with the concensus. We were several levels below appalling and couldn't give half that lot away let alone sell them.