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| Quote ="moving on..."Seems strange we went on an unbeaten run with myler out of the halves. First through injury and the game where he came on off the bench.'"
We actually lost just three games in four months and Myler played in the halves in many games in that period.
Richie has had an injury hit and inconsistent season, but the previous two years I thought he was one of our better players. People say 'without Briers he hasn't stepped up' but Briers missed quite a lot of last season and Myler played very well without him. He's just been a bit under par this season.
Although saying that - and I do think he is a good player - I don't think he's a leading half with a good kicking game. I too think he's got the attributes to be a Hooker. Rob Burrow made that switch, he too was a half who was better suited to the 9 role.
Imagine a hooking pair of Clark and Myler...I reckon that would be good.
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| Myler cannot defend in the middle of the field. No chance at all.
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| I think the problem with Myler is people expected alot more.
in a good side next to and organising HB he is a decent player..... in a side with no leading HB he looks a bit lost.
he wont ever be the player some are looking for... i wouldnt be over bothered if we got rid.... i also think there is a future for him.... without a proper HB next to him, like briers, i dont think we will see the best of him
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| Please can we stop with this idea of shunting players around who are not good enough for their principal position just to accomodate them?
Myler to hooker and Atkins to second row being just two. If Myler isn't good enough for half-back, goodbye Myler. If Atkins isn't good enough for centre, tara Ryan. I can count on one hand the number of times these things work, that the player actually improves or enhances his abilities by such a move - Westwood, Gary Mercer ...... and now I'm struggling.
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| The best Wire have played all season, was strangely when we were thread bare in the forwards yet through adversity 7 games of total domination of all comers and Myler was nowhere near the team!
6&7...R&B.
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| The thing with Myler is you still feel there's potential there. If you let an underperforming prop leave and he goes on to be a good player, you get over it and you move on. However, if you let your first choice halfback leave and he goes on and improves, we'll be kicking ourselves so much.
I've never been huge on Richie, but he's produced special moments in glimpses and scored/created some brilliant tries. Halfback is easily the hardest position to find top quality in at the moment, people keep on saying "Let Myler go and bring in a proper half back with leadership and a kicking game"; but how many of them are knocking about? I see the frustrating aspects of Myler, but I'd be gutted if he left and matured into a better player/leader. How long can you sit on potential before you give up on it and let it be another side's issue? I don't know, but given the dearth in quality halfbacks, especially British ones, I think it's a risk loaning him out and essentially ending his time at the club aged 24, especially with this being his first season without Briers.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The best Wire have played all season, was strangely when we were thread bare in the forwards yet through adversity 7 games of total domination of all comers and Myler was nowhere near the team!
6&7...R&B.'"
I can't be bothered checking the fixture list, but, what was the quality of these "all comers"? From my recollection, we had a tough start fixture-wise and our form was dodgy. Bradford away was perhaps the most disappointing game I've been to in a considerable time and a low point for this squad. This was followed by run of games, but, did we play anyone of any real merit during this time of "total domination"?
You can only beat what's in front of you and your R&B argument is valid in that it got us back on track, but, I don't think the times were as difficult as you are making out.
I would like Myler to stay and agree with others who think he's a scapegoat because of the fee and expectation. There's a dearth of HB quality generally in the game and an injury-free season will do him the world of good.
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| Perhaps I can help you to cast your mind back UR.
2 teams sitting pretty near the top of the league, Leeds at home and Saints at Eithad.
Wire put up around 40 on each of them. At that time Leeds hardly had had 40 put against them all that early season.
Wire absolutely battered Leeds.
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| I think it's the fee and expectation that came with it. If he had come up through the ranks it would be a different story.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps I can help you to cast your mind back UR.
2 teams sitting pretty near the top of the league, Leeds at home and Saints at Eithad.
Wire put up around 40 on each of them. At that time Leeds hardly had had 40 put against them all that early season.
Wire absolutely battered Leeds.'"
but all the other teams we beat in that run - with the exception of the not so well traveled Catalan - failed to make the top eight, two of the sides were even relegated. so in a ten match run seven teams were out of the top 8.
compared to 2011 when we went on an even bigger run of 11 superleague games unbeaten only 4 of those sides were out of the top 8 and one of those teams was Catalan Away....I cant be bothered looking but I'll be surprised if Myler wasn't scrum half for all of those and Chris bridge was centre
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps I can help you to cast your mind back UR.
2 teams sitting pretty near the top of the league, Leeds at home and Saints at Eithad.
Wire put up around 40 on each of them. At that time Leeds hardly had had 40 put against them all that early season.
Wire absolutely battered Leeds.'"
We won 24-6.
Myler came off the bench.
Myler had two try assists.
Michael Monaghan was our top attacking kicker that day with 3; Bridge had 2, Myler 1 and Ratch 0.
Bridge scored 2 tries and had 3 clean breaks; Myler had a clean break too.
That match was all about running from dummy half - we had 61 in that match, which must surely be a very high figure; it feels it.
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| We also went to Castleford with Bridge in the halves and were absolutely trounced and he was awful at 6.
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| My point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.
When we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.
I expected us to get knocked out in the cc.
TS fixed what wasn't broke.
Get your head out of the sand and smell the custard.
Do some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.
IMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.
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| This Story Now On BBC website, May have some Legs . With a bit of Luck .
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| Hull KR want him on a season long lone.
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| Quote ="Big Dave 3"Not going anywhere!'"
Quote ="The Biffs Back"This is a 100% Guaranteed done deal
Hull KR really wanted a permanent deal and not a loan arrangement'"
one of you will have egg on their face
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"My point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.
When we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.
I expected us to get knocked out in the cc.
TS fixed what wasn't broke.
Get your head out of the sand and smell the custard.
Do some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.
IMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.'"
Could someone please explain this post to me, or is it really time for me to put on the sleeveless overcoat?
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| Ratchford at halfback; that's funny.
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| Struth I give up.
Too many short memories.
Taxi!
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Could someone please explain this post to me, or is it really time for me to put on the sleeveless overcoat?'"
[iMy point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.[/i
= Quantum mechanics is essentially a discussion of probability rather than certainty. Rather than the certainty of 1, you have to think in terms of fractions.
[iWhen we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.[/i
= Small breast enlargements are tricky to perform and don't match up to the real thing.
[iTS fixed what wasn't broke.[/i
= Clearly a riddle, probably stolen from Frodo in Lord of The Rings.
[iGet your head out of the sand and smell the custard.[/i
= **^1! "{PP)(*$$WW
[iDo some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.[/i
= Even though you can not predict the exact position of an electron via quantum mechanics, it's better than knowing nothin.
[iIMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.[/i
I think this is a reference to Dita's avatar
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"What?'"
I think he is trying to say you are far too intellectual for the majority on here ......
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"[iMy point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.[/i
= Quantum mechanics is essentially a discussion of probability rather than certainty. Rather than the certainty of 1, you have to think in terms of fractions.
[iWhen we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.[/i
= Small breast enlargements are tricky to perform and don't match up to the real thing.
[iTS fixed what wasn't broke.[/i
= Clearly a riddle, probably stolen from Frodo in Lord of The Rings.
[iGet your head out of the sand and smell the custard.[/i
= **^1! "{PP)(*$$WW
[iDo some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.[/i
= Even though you can not predict the exact position of an electron via quantum mechanics, it's better than knowing nothin.
[iIMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.[/i
I think this is a reference to Dita's avatar'"
haha.. best post on here in ages
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| This is very strange. Why would Hull KR want him when they've just signed up two half backs and why would we want to release him for a next season? The fact that it's on BBC website makes you think there is something in it. The report only says that HKR are "interested in signing" ... which doesn't really say much. Wouldn't have thought that it's a great career move playing for HKR! (sorry HKR).
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| If he's only got a year left on contract, then isn't letting him out on a year long loan, a bit like letting him leave for free ?
Doesn't seem to make good financial sense.
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