Quins have had good starts to the season before now. In 2008 they were 2nd in the table by Round 5, but were then undone by a horrific run of injuries and their squad depth wasn't enough to maintain their results.

I genuinely hope for them that, injury wise, they have a season similar to ours last year. I'd like to see them do well.

The average finishing position of the London side since SL began is 8th. Warrington's is 7th.

And people seem to think if they perform well on the pitch they are going to suddenly start attracting huge crowds. They even finished second once and they've made the cup final. Has any of that helped their crowds, no. Until they get somebody in like the great Peter Deakin to help with the marketing then however well the team is doing will be irrelevant.

Success is a factor. The casual voters don't want to go and watch a team that's losing every week, and/or playing boring unattractive Rugby. Quins need a mixture of both on-field entertainment and good marketing in order to increase their gate, either one or the other won't do the trick on their own.

As mentioned above (under the name Broncos) they got to Wembley

They also had (admittedly, at the end of their trophy laden years) two of modern RL's biggest names, in Offiah and Edwards

Richard Branson, one of Britain's top achieving and famous businessmen got involved (although not financially)

The RFL have bent over backwards to accomodate them, by rule bending, and ignoring regulations, which other teams get correctly dealt with

...and Quins still manage to make a bit of a mess of it.

Seriously, who is/has been in charge or allowed to run this club for the life of Super League? Laurel and Hardy, The Chuckle Brothers? It's becoming a bit more than a joke now.

Quins aren't the only club. Wakefield didn't learn the lessons of two winding up petitions from HMRC that they sraped through by the skin of their teeth and still screwed up their financial budgets to the point that they appear to have forgotten they had to pay a tax bill and went in to administration/sale to avoid a third one being issued.

Bad administration is bad administration. Quins deserve no more or no less criticism for it than any of the heartland clubs that have also made a monumental ****up of things. (edit, oops, I expected the profanity filter to catch that one on my behalf)

The RU team do well enough, crowd-wise



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Sorry jd but seems youv'e jinxed the Quins

It could have ended worse... oh wait



In that case... I hope Wigan go the season unbeaten then.

I worry about you sometimes JD.

at the risk of being controversial they should stop throwing good money after bad and promote Widnes and Leigh at the expense of the Crusaders and Quins

So we stick 80+ points on them ...

I said I wanted Quins to go unbeaten for a bit and we destroyed them. I was doing a lil reverse psychology, i suppose.

i was worried by the other comment you made... tut tut

I'd rather have Hodgson kick me in the knackers than wish Wigan go a season undefeated.

Over 14,000 at the Bradford v Cas game today.

Over 11,500 at the Warrington v Quins game today.

And that's down on last years attendance, whereas Bradford is over 6,000 up.

obsessed, now Rogues is trawling through our attendances from last year

How much are season tickets at Bradford this year?

16p for a family of 12.

ours was down by 160 people you sad sad man.

whose to say there weren't 500 less harlequins fans came than last year, and the wire fans were up?

He'll have counted them in, like Noah.

oh and rogues, you neglected to mention that both our attendances vs KR and Leeds were up by 1,000 from last season.

Hull Kr 2010- 9216 2011- 10899 (up 1683)

Leeds 2010- 10442 2011 - 11438 (up 996)

Quins 2010 - 11678 2011 - 11506 (down 172)


seems like its now a wiganer being "owned" by a post about statistics, go and cream yourselves over that one.

He also doesn't mention that last year was the season opener and I think may have had Jedward, so .....

Lies, damn lies, & Jedward.