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| Talk last week was saying Sandow won't be fit.
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| Don't forget the last GF defeat when we lost stef and Joel. We really needed a spare back then. Sandow on bench for me if injury free, not necessary fully fit
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| Actually my concern with the GF is Wigoons illegal / borderline 3rd man below the knees tackling. I'd say it was the main factor last time in our loss.
I really hope the refs are on top of that this time.
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| Quote ="fez1"Actually my concern with the GF is Wigoons illegal / borderline 3rd man below the knees tackling. I'd say it was the main factor last time in our loss.
I really hope the refs are on top of that this time.'"
Give it a rest ffs. It's been proven plenty of times that tackle by Hansen was around th hips of Ratchford.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Give it a rest ffs. It's been proven plenty of times that tackle by Hansen was around th hips of Ratchford.'"
Because of which the law was then subsequently changed
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| Proven by whom??? It was a career threatening tackle
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| It was a shoulder charge to the hips when Ratchford was already tackled.
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| The best way to play this final is to play Wigan at their own game. Niggling,outright aggression, ignore 10 yards at play the ball, ignore having markers square.Wigan will bend or break every rule they can to win on Saturday & we should be prepared to do the same. Rules go out of the window in this competition. The club could do worse than get a copy of the Shaun Wane coaching manual.
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| Quote ="ninearches"The best way to play this final is to play Wigan at their own game. Niggling,outright aggression, ignore 10 yards at play the ball, ignore having markers square.Wigan will bend or break every rule they can to win on Saturday & we should be prepared to do the same. Rules go out of the window in this competition. The club could do worse than get a copy of the Shaun Wane coaching manual.'"
Push the extent of the rules until you start to get penalised for breaking them. Standard really.
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| Quote ="ninearches"It was a shoulder charge to the hips when Ratchford was already tackled.'"
Lol. Couldn't paint a truer picture of event.
During the game Lockers twice twisted the foot of Ratchford. He went in as 3rd man, lifted his leg by the foot and gave it a 180• twist. HH finished the job.
We all know the agenda Wane had. We saw the same agenda during the TV documentary.
Either way I don't deny Pies the win or the way they done it, coz it was their only way. I blame TS for dropping Hodgson and leaving us short in the backs on field and playing 4 forwards on the bench.
Whatever spat LB and BH had during the week leading up to the final...I'm sure that could have put it behind them for 80 mins!
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| Quote ="ninearches"The best way to play this final is to play Wigan at their own game. Niggling,outright aggression, ignore 10 yards at play the ball, ignore having markers square.Wigan will bend or break every rule they can to win on Saturday & we should be prepared to do the same. Rules go out of the window in this competition. The club could do worse than get a copy of the Shaun Wane coaching manual.'"
UFC rugby league, anything goes except for eye gouging!!
....or we can just do what we did the other week but not take our foot off the gas this time
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"
....or we can just do what we did the other week but not take our foot off the gas this time'"
Which is exactly what we'll do. I honestly think we'll win comfortably: we've had the measure of Wigan all year, and if the game the other week had been the final we'd have won by 30+. Wire by 20.
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"UFC rugby league, anything goes except for eye gouging!!
....or we can just do what we did the other week but not take our foot off the gas this time'"
Westwood on Green didn't do us any favours last time, so I'll say stick with the 2nd option and play for the full 80.
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| I do not want us to play like them! I'm not suggesting we are squeaky clean, The Chillmeister certainly knows how to slow a ptb when necessary!
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| Quote ="mark_m"Push the extent of the rules until you start to get penalised for breaking them. Standard really.'"
That's what every team does already
Hilarious this holier than thou attitude on here.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"That's what every team does already
Hilarious this holier than thou attitude on here.'"
Just holier than wanes wigan, like every other side in superleague.
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| Quote ="NtW"Which is exactly what we'll do. I honestly think we'll win comfortably: we've had the measure of Wigan all year, and if the game the other week had been the final we'd have won by 30+. Wire by 20.'"
Big statement right there!
You've had Wigan's measure for years in regular season league games. Wire play with far more intensity in those games for some reason (a bit like we do against Saints).
It hasn't been the same story in knock out/sudden death rugby though so we'll have to cling on to that thought for a bit of comfort.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"That's what every team does already
Hilarious this holier than thou attitude on here.'"
Teams have to because of the inconsistency of referees. Coaches fully realise this.
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| It will be close make no doubt about that. It's foolish to try to claim an easy victory.
My respect for Wane is huge for what he's achieved with Wigan this year. I don't like his attitude sometimes but you can't argue that he's not done a great job.
The bookies are never usually far wrong so look to them for some guidance and I bet they can't call it.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"
My respect for Wane is huge for what he's achieved with Wigan this year. I don't like his attitude sometimes but you can't argue that he's not done a great job.
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Agreed. I am not keen on his structured brand of rugby but what they have achieved with injuries and the Bateman incident this season is incredible. The team look to have a massive togetherness, like they would run through brick walls for each other.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Agreed. I am not keen on his structured brand of rugby but what they have achieved with injuries and the Bateman incident this season is incredible. The team look to have a massive togetherness, like they would run through brick walls for each other.'"
They are massively overachieving as a result of the team being packed with Wigan born lads who give it absolutely everything. Wane is exactly the coach they need.
We should be confident of beating them as we have the superior playing resources but their spirit and determination worries me.
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| Quote ="mark_m"They are massively overachieving as a result of the team being packed with Wigan born lads who give it absolutely everything. Wane is exactly the coach they need.
We should be confident of beating them as we have the superior playing resources but their spirit and determination worries me.'"
Agree. The other concern is that when Wigan played their expansive game when at 12 men against us we had no answer. Oh well makes for an interesting Saturday.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Agree. The other concern is that when Wigan played their expansive game when at 12 men against us we had no answer. Oh well makes for an interesting Saturday.'"
For the last 20 minutes of that game they deviated from their game plan and started to throw the ball around and off load at every opportunity and it all came off. I am not to sure that that will be allowed to happen again.
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| You know what I berated TS for saying the Wigan loss would galvanise and help us, but that game does seem to have given us the boot up the ass we needed at the right stage of the season.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"You know what I berated TS for saying the Wigan loss would galvanise and help us, but that game does seem to have given us the boot up the ass we needed at the right stage of the season.'"
It seems to have made us an 80 minute team which is an good thing, we've won the second half the past 2 weeks after switching off the previous 4 games. We'll need to be at our best to finally win the big prize but I would like to think Wigan will as well.
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