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| ...for Old Trafford.
Whether Sandow or Bailey are fit or not. Please do not change the team. Sorry, Kev, I love you on the wing as much as anyone, but the 17 from last night deserve to run out next weekend.
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| Smith was on 5 Live yesterday after the game and they directly asked him "if he's fit does Sandow play?"
Smith gave a typical politicians answer of "we'll see" but then closed with something along the lines of "even if he is fit, the reality is he won't be up to speed enough to play" so think we can rule him out.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Smith was on 5 Live yesterday after the game and they directly asked him "if he's fit does Sandow play?"
Smith gave a typical politicians answer of "we'll see" but then closed with something along the lines of "even if he is fit, the reality is he won't be up to speed enough to play" so think we can rule him out.'"
Unlikely Sandow will play, but what's, happened to Brad Dwyer?
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| He's lost to much weight !!
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| After the Hull game TS said he's been a bit flat recently so he's gone away to work on aspects of his game..
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| Difficult choices eh ? If Sandow and Bailey are fit, will TS play them ?
I thought the kids in the team were brilliant - Smith 18, King 20, Philbin, Patton and Wilde all 21, all played their part. In fact on paper, we should probably have lost this game (and last week) especially with all our props injured; Dodds, Evans, Westwood, Cox, Bailey, Harrison. It was no surprise that we were pinned in our own half for the last 20 minutes of the match with no go-forward to speak of. Bailey could certainly help out, and Sandow is a match winner if he is fit.
I don't fancy TS's job atm
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| I would leave Smith out & bring back Dwyer
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"I would leave Smith out & bring back Dwyer'"
Yes Smith looked out of his depth yesterday.
I would leave rest of the team as it was, thought Ratchford played well at fullback overall.
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| Quote ="Quickening"Yes Smith looked out of his depth yesterday.
I would leave rest of the team as it was, thought Ratchford played well at fullback overall.'"
I would absolutely bring Brad Dwyer in for Smith. The young lad looked off the pace last night. Stef was solid again at full back apart from when he nearly had his head taken off. Took his try sublimely.
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| Yeah I think it was a bit too far of a step up for Smith last night. He only lasted 8 minutes before being hooked off. Lost count of the tackles, terrible pass to Sims along the floor and a poor territorial kick that dribbled along the ground.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yeah I think it was a bit too far of a step up for Smith last night. He only lasted 8 minutes before being hooked off. Lost count of the tackles, terrible pass to Sims along the floor and a poor territorial kick that dribbled along the ground.'"
Agree, he tackled well in that time to be fair but some mistakes that I don't think we would see from Dwyer.
I'm becoming a huge Toby King fan h en has some future in the game.
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| The only change we need is to bring back Dwyer as Smith is nowhere near good enough for hooker and is a waste of a bench spot.
Bet it doesn't happen though. I could give numerous reasons why.
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| Quote ="mark_m"The only change we need is to bring back Dwyer as Smith is nowhere near good enough for hooker and is a waste of a bench spot.
Bet it doesn't happen though. I could give numerous reasons why.'"
*pulls up a chair*
sounds like you have a tale to tell.
Smith was mixed in his praise of morgan last night, not great going forward, but good in defence, and they were just glad to give clark a breather, who btw had another scintillating game.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat" they were just glad to give clark a breather, who btw had another scintillating game.'"
He was superb again, I think better than Roby in his prime and that is saying something.
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| Quote ="Wires71"He was superb again, I think better than Roby in his prime and that is saying something.'"
Yes I think Clark is our most effective player alongside Hill. He needs to stop looking for penalties by planting the ball onto the opposition at play the balls though, it isn't working.
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| Quote ="Quickening"Yes I think Clark is our most effective player alongside Hill. He needs to stop looking for penalties by planting the ball onto the opposition at play the balls though, it isn't working.'"
I don't like this habit where he throws his arms in the air at most play the balls appealing for a penalty, other than that he is incredible. Tackles like a demon, amazing acceleration and step.
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| +1 for Dwyer coming in. I like Morgan and he played well against Hull and on all his other first team appearances to be honest. But he shouldn't have played last night. Brad Dwyer is a young player as well but he's more than established in the first team and is a proven performer, whereas Smith hasn't played 10 games in Super League. I expect the pair will swap for next week.
I'd also like to see Bailey on the bench if he's ready but Patton has earned his place for me whether Sandow is ready or not.
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| i would say that clarke is having a better season, than his man of steel winning year.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i would say that clarke is having a better season, than his man of steel winning year.'"
Easily.
His stats are incredible.
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He is just so dangerous when the defence is rushing back to position.
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| I actually though Clark was quiet compared to the Wigan game, im not saying he had a bad game. But against Wigan he was immense!
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| Why is Dwyer on the "naughty step"?
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| All things being equal I'd have Dwyer back on the bench Smith's got time on his side other than that same team for me.
What I can't fathom apart from where's saddened is why we haven't had a Tom Lineham thread? I have seriously had a downer on the guy, particularly his attitude, but, boy the shortest transformation in history, totally resurrected his Wire career will be lining at OT rather than Rochdale and more importantly looks to be part of team?
Carry on next year please as the last couple of weeks
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| The Lineham thing is amazing. It's not as if he's appeared and just filled a role. He's played very well and if he scores a hat trick at Old Trafford, he becomes our top try scorer for the season (joint, I think, not sure if stats have been updated yet).
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"I would leave Smith out & bring back Dwyer'"
That actually made me laugh. At first glance I thought you meant Tony.
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| If he's fit there is no way on earth that our Marquee player should not be playing.
This game is the reason we've paid the big bucks for Chris and its madness not to play him.
That said Dec deserves a spot so how about the following squad (assuming Bailey and Dodds are not fit)
Ratch
Lineham
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Atkins
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T King
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