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| ..... Loving those names of the new HKR half backs - Have they borrowed the tardis and signed them from the 1950's??
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"icon_lol.gif ..... Loving those names of the new HKR half backs - Have they borrowed the tardis and signed them from the 1950's??'"
It's a stipulation we have with all our new signings they must have interesting names or be ginger, we've followed this formula for a number of years now!
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| Suprise Suprise , another dead end Rumour on the wire rlfans board .... Myler will be our number 7 next year .. get used to it people instead of just looking for a new Mike Wainright, John clarke scapegoat type player and give the lad your support .. wire best fans in the league ... Honestly .. yeah Right lol
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| I'll happily support Myler when he isn't one of our starting halfbacks because he is useless from there.
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| Quote ="moving on..."I'll happily support Myler when he isn't one of our starting halfbacks because he is useless from there.'"
Is that right ... so you sat motionless at Wembley when Myler set up the opening try for joel with a break up the middle of the park,followed by a look up and an inch perfect kick while running at full tilt.
I thought it was a special piece of skill......I wonder what lee Briers was winning when he was the same age as Myler....
I think at 24 lee was in a relegation battle and was completely outshone by a winger turned halfback who got himself nominated for man of steel...
Just saying.....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Is that right ... so you sat motionless at Wembley when Myler set up the opening try for joel with a break up the middle of the park,followed by a look up and an inch perfect kick while running at full tilt.
I thought it was a special piece of skill......I wonder what lee Briers was winning when he was the same age as Myler....
I think at 24 lee was in a relegation battle and was completely outshone by a winger turned halfback who got himself nominated for man of steel...
Just saying.....'"
That was a sensational try. Great vision.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Is that right ... so you sat motionless at Wembley when Myler set up the opening try for joel with a break up the middle of the park,followed by a look up and an inch perfect kick while running at full tilt.
I thought it was a special piece of skill......I wonder what lee Briers was winning when he was the same age as Myler....
I think at 24 lee was in a relegation battle and was completely outshone by a winger turned halfback who got himself nominated for man of steel...
Just saying.....'"
I think you'll find Brett Hodgeson was running along side Myler pointing left and screaming 'Kick it' you'll also find Joel had to run arms outstreched in order to catch it. So his vision? No. Inch perfect kick? No.
Just saying...
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| Myler has more to his game than most people give him credit for. His kicking game isn't great but he does have good vision and pace and does have some creativity. I just think this last season he had a great deal of pressure on him after Briers' retirement and that, coupled with injuries and trying too hard, have probably left him short of confidence. He's got no lack of bottle and has kept trying things even when they haven't coe off. I'm not saying he's the best halfback in the league, but I'd like to see Myler stay with us and prove the doubters wrong
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| Quote ="moving on..."I think you'll find Brett Hodgeson was running along side Myler pointing left and screaming 'Kick it' you'll also find Joel had to run arms outstreched in order to catch it. So his vision? No. Inch perfect kick? No.
Just saying...'"
Post like this make me embarrassed at times. The skill level for that try was exceptional.
Ask Myler to control a team around the park and he'll struggle, have an organised half back with him and he's a 20 try a season support player... Danny Maguire is no better than Myler but he's been lucky enough to play with Sinfield as a pivot.
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| Yeah, and every time McGuire has to play on his own he's found out. The point is that we all know that Myler can score trys and that's great but he is the senior halfback and 1st choice scrum half. He should be creating the chances not waiting for others to do so.
The skI'll level waexceptional? Hodgeson told him where to kick it and he did. Would he have done that off the top of his own head? Doubt it.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Yeah, and every time McGuire has to play on his own he's found out. The point is that we all know that Myler can score trys and that's great but he is the senior halfback and 1st choice scrum half. He should be creating the chances not waiting for others to do so.
The skI'll level waexceptional? Hodgeson told him where to kick it and he did. Would he have done that off the top of his own head? Doubt it.'"
So, in your World, the fact that someone shouted to him to do the kick has greater importance than the ability to execute the play.
Okay........
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| Quote ="moving on..."I think you'll find Brett Hodgeson was running along side Myler pointing left and screaming 'Kick it' you'll also find Joel had to run arms outstreched in order to catch it. So his vision? No. Inch perfect kick? No.
Just saying...'"
well its good Job Myler ignored Hodgeson (sp ) and his point to the left and kicked to his right and found the right winger who scored.
I once shouted to Jonathan Davies to "dummy and go on your Own".... he did....shame I had to shout that to him though.....poor skill really poor....
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| Quote ="moving on..."I think you'll find Brett Hodgeson was running along side Myler pointing left and screaming 'Kick it' you'll also find Joel had to run arms outstreched in order to catch it. So his vision? No. Inch perfect kick? No.
Just saying...'"
Stick to chatting about the Atmosphere at the Hj . what you've written there is Embarrasing .
I think we need a band in the south east corner , trombones , trumpets, drums the full works yeah ?
Just Saying ....
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| Quote ="moving on..."Yeah, and every time McGuire has to play on his own he's found out. The point is that we all know that Myler can score trys and that's great but he is the senior halfback and 1st choice scrum half. He should be creating the chances not waiting for others to do so.
The skI'll level waexceptional? Hodgeson told him where to kick it and he did. Would he have done that off the top of his own head? Doubt it.'"
I'm going to ignore the second paragraph as your logic is warped.
But that's exactly the point it was making about Myler and Maguire. They both bring something to the team but need an organising half back.
That's up to the coaching staff to sort.
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| Seems strange we went on an unbeaten run with myler out of the halves. First through injury and the game where he came on off the bench.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Seems strange we went on an unbeaten run with myler out of the halves. First through injury and the game where he came on off the bench.'"
Who is it you support again? Your last three posts on this thread have been so bad that they're embarrassing.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Seems strange we went on an unbeaten run with myler out of the halves. First through injury and the game where he came on off the bench.'"
I remember us having an unbeaten run once when Briers got injured and was out of the halves. He was therefore rubbish. I also remember us winning loads of games with Myler playing in the halves so he must be great.
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| I find many post on here embarrassing, is this not a forum for opinion? Or as long as you have the same opinion as everyone else you're ok? All I'm doing is making the point that he is not a half back. He's a skillful player with bags of talent but a half back he is not. you can go on all day how great he is at supporting but when it comes down to it a stand off AND a scrum halfs job is to direct and orchestrate a teams attack by communicating from the hooker and the dummy half, most the time the hooker is both. The two should work harmoniously. At the moment we have O'Brien coming through and showing real leadership and on the flip side myler wandering round and looking lost when he gets the ball and panics. Look at the two passes he threw at Wigan, ok Joel got on the end of one but come on...that's the sort of thing that could be a nail in the coffin in a massive game. Laithwaite (I think it was Laithwaite) and O'Brien were going mad at him over the first one, then he does it again! Luckily we got a bit flukey but in essence we were rewarded for a shocking pass. Then in the last play he gets hold of the ball and puts a grubber into no one when there was the potential for a 3 on 2 if he was to pass the ball and overlap round. Great vision from him there.
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| Quote ="moving on..."I find many post on here embarrassing, is this not a forum for opinion? Or as long as you have the same opinion as everyone else you're ok? All I'm doing is making the point that he is not a half back. He's a skillful player with bags of talent but a half back he is not. you can go on all day how great he is at supporting but when it comes down to it a stand off AND a scrum halfs job is to direct and orchestrate a teams attack by communicating from the hooker and the dummy half, most the time the hooker is both. The two should work harmoniously. At the moment we have O'Brien coming through and showing real leadership and on the flip side myler wandering round and looking lost when he gets the ball and panics. Look at the two passes he threw at Wigan, ok Joel got on the end of one but come on...that's the sort of thing that could be a nail in the coffin in a massive game. Laithwaite (I think it was Laithwaite) and O'Brien were going mad at him over the first one, then he does it again! Luckily we got a bit flukey but in essence we were rewarded for a shocking pass. Then in the last play he gets hold of the ball and puts a grubber into no one when there was the potential for a 3 on 2 if he was to pass the ball and overlap round. Great vision from him there.'"
Shaun Edwards? Poor player? Never really a player that orchestrated Wigan's attack, but an all time RL great. Myler'sw problem last season was that he had two long spells off with serious injuries and he never really got going. That would be ok for most players, but almost fatal for one who is a potential scapegoat.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Seems strange we went on an unbeaten run with myler out of the halves. First through injury and the game where he came on off the bench.'"
We actually lost just three games in four months and Myler played in the halves in many games in that period.
Richie has had an injury hit and inconsistent season, but the previous two years I thought he was one of our better players. People say 'without Briers he hasn't stepped up' but Briers missed quite a lot of last season and Myler played very well without him. He's just been a bit under par this season.
Although saying that - and I do think he is a good player - I don't think he's a leading half with a good kicking game. I too think he's got the attributes to be a Hooker. Rob Burrow made that switch, he too was a half who was better suited to the 9 role.
Imagine a hooking pair of Clark and Myler...I reckon that would be good.
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| Myler cannot defend in the middle of the field. No chance at all.
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| I think the problem with Myler is people expected alot more.
in a good side next to and organising HB he is a decent player..... in a side with no leading HB he looks a bit lost.
he wont ever be the player some are looking for... i wouldnt be over bothered if we got rid.... i also think there is a future for him.... without a proper HB next to him, like briers, i dont think we will see the best of him
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| Please can we stop with this idea of shunting players around who are not good enough for their principal position just to accomodate them?
Myler to hooker and Atkins to second row being just two. If Myler isn't good enough for half-back, goodbye Myler. If Atkins isn't good enough for centre, tara Ryan. I can count on one hand the number of times these things work, that the player actually improves or enhances his abilities by such a move - Westwood, Gary Mercer ...... and now I'm struggling.
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| The best Wire have played all season, was strangely when we were thread bare in the forwards yet through adversity 7 games of total domination of all comers and Myler was nowhere near the team!
6&7...R&B.
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| The thing with Myler is you still feel there's potential there. If you let an underperforming prop leave and he goes on to be a good player, you get over it and you move on. However, if you let your first choice halfback leave and he goes on and improves, we'll be kicking ourselves so much.
I've never been huge on Richie, but he's produced special moments in glimpses and scored/created some brilliant tries. Halfback is easily the hardest position to find top quality in at the moment, people keep on saying "Let Myler go and bring in a proper half back with leadership and a kicking game"; but how many of them are knocking about? I see the frustrating aspects of Myler, but I'd be gutted if he left and matured into a better player/leader. How long can you sit on potential before you give up on it and let it be another side's issue? I don't know, but given the dearth in quality halfbacks, especially British ones, I think it's a risk loaning him out and essentially ending his time at the club aged 24, especially with this being his first season without Briers.
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