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| By the way, Harlequins are on Sky next Friday night.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"By the way, Harlequins are on Sky next Friday night.'"
I'm glad. I really really like Quins. They are developing real talent and play some goo d rugby. However, the support sin't there.
I don't know how other's feel about them.
I do wonder the motivation behind Sky's decision to show that match. As we know they are leading the expansion idea as part of the contract. I suppose as they have to show a certain amount of teams, it is impossible to tell how it is going to shape up. Before the season i would have though that Huddersfield and Quins would be the reverse of what they are now.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Which bit?
It was only an idea. I don't see how it is arrogant.'"
Arrant. Not arrogant.
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| The premier league don't try and get rid of Wigan because of their attendances? It happens in alot of sports.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Arrant. Not arrogant.
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Oh it that case, you're spot on.
Not my idea though. Think something should be given a shot cause crowd numbers are not growing in Wales or London.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Oh it that case, you're spot on.
Not my idea though. Think something should be given a shot cause crowd numbers are not growing in Wales or London.'"
You [uagree[/u that I'm "spot on" in describing your post as arrant nonsense?
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| Quote ="worthing wire"You [uagree[/u that I'm "spot on" in describing your post as arrant nonsense?
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Don't be such a bully !!!! why can't you just discuss his or your opinion !!!!
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| Quote ="worthing wire"You [uagree[/u that I'm "spot on" in describing your post as arrant nonsense?
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Yes, it could be deemed arrant nonsense.
I don't have a strong opinion either way.
I personally don't care.
You'd like to think you have verbally got me into a corner. You are just close minded. My only strong opinion is something should be done to improve the size of crowds at the expanded areas. I was giving on suggestion. What is yours? ... oh wait, you don't have one never mind.
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| Warrington has a population of around 200k and recent average attendances around 10k since the move to the HJ (albeit at Wilderspool it was usually around 6k) and a rich RL history.
Wrexham has a population of 40k, and no rugby league history.
Hence 10k from 200k ~ 5%, 2k from 40k ~ 5%.
Perhaps there's a question to be answered as to why we don't sell out the HJ for every game?
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| Quote ="just_browny"NEver fails to amaze me that people on here take pleasure with seeing low crowds.'"
Pleasure??
You obviously have me mixed up with somebody else that you know......
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| It should be up to crusaders,to increase their attendance.Not the Rfl.
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| I was shocked really as after having a good win in Round 1, and a narrow loss in Round 2 I thought the crowd would be quite decent.
Saturday evening, Bradford City at home, Wrexham away, game being on Sky all factors effecting attendance.
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| Attendance reported as 2615 on BBC website.
I'd expect a pretty poor crowd at Wakey v Salford as well today. Maybe 4k?
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| I'm sure if St George were watching they would have had to doulbe check they wernt watching a reserve grade game! Why do clubs not give out free tickets to local schools etc?
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"Attendance reported as 2615 on BBC website.
I'd expect a pretty poor crowd at Wakey v Salford as well today. Maybe 4k?'"
It seems that I could be very wrong on this.
[urlhttp://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011/02/wildcats-extend-%E2%80%98a-tenner-for-ten-thousand%E2%80%99/[/url
Good on them. Great piece of marketing from the Wildcats.
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| How would you feel about half price £10 tickets or free kids tickets if you've already bought a season ticket / junior season ticket ?
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| Only trouble with lowering ticket prices is knowing if the ony reason people aren't coming is because the ticket prices are too high ?
10k at £10 is 100k profit
5k at £17 is 85k profit
but you have to remember that potentially you could get
5k at £10 which is 50k profit which would lose you 35k if the demand isn't there.
When i earlier stated that the RFL could get involved what i mean is they could devise a plan.
It would be up to clubs to implement it/ improve on it.
The RFL marketing machine though is absolute poop
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That's a delightfully inconvenient truth for those currently taking great onanistic delight in deriding Quins & Crusaders for their attendances. More effort in promoting and encouraging interest, and less effort complaining bitterly all the time (especially by those who have a voice in the media that reaches beyond the already-converted: I'm looking at you Tony Hannan if you're reading), would be far more beneficial to these teams.
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That's a delightfully inconvenient truth for those currently taking great onanistic delight in deriding Quins & Crusaders for their attendances. More effort in promoting and encouraging interest, and less effort complaining bitterly all the time (especially by those who have a voice in the media that reaches beyond the already-converted: I'm looking at you Tony Hannan if you're reading), would be far more beneficial to these teams.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I agree partially with what you are saying. However, I feel that is true of a lot of teams.
No one can deny that a smaller league would create a more intense league. Where is the trade off.
The best idea people have come up with so far is the two tier Super league. Maybe 16 teams, 8 in each tier. P + R for each tier. Takes some pressure off teams and can allow more focus. How much interest are Quins going to get this year? not as much as Saints or Wigan. In a smaller tier where they can develop and challenge for promotion they will generate a lot of interest.
I hope Quins can go the whole season unbeaten. I fear next week might be the end though'" You can't be serious by even thinking that Quins have a chance of going the season unbeaten.More chance of finding life on Mars
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| If any team ever goes a full season undefeated then they simply will have to go down as the greatest RL squad in history. Even Wigan in their pomp never went a full season undefeated.
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| Quote ="runningman29"You can't be serious by even thinking that Quins have a chance of going the season unbeaten.More chance of finding life on Mars
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No, I don't think they will and if they went unbeaten for the whole season it would be strange. but I mean it would be great for the league, and a great boost for the expansion argument.
My hope they can continue to win though.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"No, I don't think they will and if they went unbeaten for the whole season it would be strange. but I mean it would be great for the league, and a great boost for the expansion argument.
My hope they can continue to win though.'" But by saying you don't think they will means you give them a chance.Even Wigan would find it difficult nevermind Quins so it should not have even entered your head.
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| Quote ="runningman29"But by saying you don't think they will means you give them a chance.Even Wigan would find it difficult nevermind Quins so it should not have even entered your head.'"
They're unbeaten so far and have just beaten 4 time super league champions.
Shouldn't be so disparaging of what is apparently a very good team.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"They're unbeaten so far and have just beaten 4 time super league champions.
Shouldn't be so disparaging of what is apparently a very good team.'" A very good team after just 3 games!I'll reserve my judgement until further on in the season.
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