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| Quote ="Keithslyblind drunk"I agree with lefty goldblatt
Talks a lot of sense
Don't be surprised how soon
Hughes dishes up the same rubbish
He won't be turning into a world beater anytime soon'"
While we're in the dig up the past posts let's have a look at some....
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"Hughes is not centre but sacrificed his own game last year for the good for the team so it would seem. I am prepared to give him a clean slate and see how he goes in his preferred / better position is what is hopefully a better team effort this season coming.
Regarding 'grunt' BMM showed some yesterday as well as some real class with a couple of off loads one of which led tot a try. A great buy.
Coops put in a good shift but I would like to see him eat a couple of Welsh Oggies and beef up a touch
One of the pleasing aspects of yesterdays game was the defence. Yes we were not necessarily playing against the most dynamic attack we will see in 2018 but to concede only one try and a fortuitous one at that was a good effort. In attack we were missing possibly our two most creative players in Roberts and Patton so improvements to come there
Lot more optimistic for the season that at the same stage last year after the dreadful Huddersfield performance.'"
A post of reason....
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Season hasn't started yet, and the epithet [iscapegoat[/i has been used.
Hughes is not, repeat NOT, a scapegoat.
Hughes is simply not good enough, for where we want to be. The same goes for that plant pot on the wing, Russell. I'm fully aware we can't have a team full of stars, but Hughes' career plateaued after a decent start in Wire colours, since that plateau, it's regressed. Last season, he was a walking accident. Not good enough. He's at Widnes' level, now.
I'd rather promote a younger lad.
Harsh, maybe. But true.
We've already got a "near as damn it passenger" in Westwood for the upcoming season. We can't afford another.
Westwood is now at the level where Yaya Toure is at City. A legend for what he's done, but it's time to stop embarrassing yourself, and tarnishing your reputation.
Add to this, Crosby's form/state of mind, and Cooper's horrific 2017 season, I've a few worries for our pack, this season. I really hope I'm proved wrong.'"
Oh dear....
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"its not doom and gloom..we will be better than last year (not too difficult)..BUT we have to have realistic levels of expectation....otherwise the new coach and the team will be put under too much pressure based on unrealistic expectations.
I expect a top 6-8 finish and a decent cup run....more than that is a bonus IMO....we are building again....heading in the right direction....but I really don't expect us to make the top 4 or a final....because we are still short of enough top class players to achieve that IMO. Hope i am wrong.'"
Ouch....
Don't give me any of your tips.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Rubber, there is a difference between being happy with mid table and expecting it. There was a lot wrong at the Wire and it had been brewing for a while. It will take time to fix that due to hysteresis.'"
Good grief..
Miles off!
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"And one other thing, I want Chris Hill to stop moaning at the ref so much and giving penalties away at silly times or in silly areas.
As captain he needs to be calmer and more composed.'"
I think he read this one.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Oh dear....'"
Well done in trawling past posts to prove a point. All players mentioned pinched a living, that year
Hughes stunk the house out in 17. Am I wrong. No.
Still under contract, he upped his game, and improved. Well done Hughes. I'm a Wire fan. I want him to do well
Likewise Westwood
Getting by on a year by year deal, he had his best year since 2013.
Likewise Cooper's rubbish from 17, He upped his game, too.
Instead of raking up old posts with an I told you so attitude, get in your cab, eh. Are the ranks quiet?
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| Why get so upset when your past predictions are pointed out to you....
Plenty of mine turned out to be ballsocks.
I can't be bothered searching through all my past posts but I remember a few:
- I was a sceptic of appointing Steve Price, thought he was a poor choice with a failure behind him at St George and would struggle here.
- Not sure if I posted this thought on the forum, but I didn't think we should have kept Westwood on for 2018. For what its worth, I also wouldn't have kept him next year either.
- I predicted we would finish 6th in 2018 and not make any finals.
- I thought our pack was not up to it, hence this thread before last season. Like lefty I had Hughes down in the category of players like Russell and Westerman who hadn't delivered what we hoped. I thought the same of Lineham too...
- I was a big fan of Kevin Brown at Widnes and was pleased when we signed him, thought he would be one of the better players in SL during his time with us.
Safe to assume if you read any prediction from me that it's not worth putting money on.
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| Useful insight into how tough the coaching lark can be...our predictions have no impact whatsoever, the coach predicts which players will do well and stakes his career on it.
Hopefully no one on here takes themselves too seriously.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Well done in trawling past posts to prove a point. All players mentioned pinched a living, that year
Hughes stunk the house out in 17. Am I wrong. No.
Still under contract, he upped his game, and improved. Well done Hughes. I'm a Wire fan. I want him to do well
Likewise Westwood
Getting by on a year by year deal, he had his best year since 2013.
Likewise Cooper's rubbish from 17, He upped his game, too.
Instead of raking up old posts with an I told you so attitude, get in your cab, eh. Are the ranks quiet?'"
There was no I told you so from me.
Sally started it so I thought it to be an interesting reflect of the season to see our initial thoughts early season.
Nothing wrong with a player proving us wrong....in fact that's everything right about it.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"A theme of last year on here was how we had a beaten pack, needed some biff etc.
What do you think about it at this point?
For me, the pack is the main reason I have got limited expectations about this season, particularly the thin-looking front row.
From last year's struggling pack we have moved on Sims, Savelio, Julien, Westerman and Dwyer.
Adding BMM plus Currie coming back from injury gives us a stronger looking back row.
What's the front row going to be? Hill and Cooper with Crosby and Akauola coming off the bench? A few question marks there.
=#FF0000Overall I think we are 2 top class forwards away from being able to go in to the season with confidence that we can be =#FF0000competing in the top four.'"
On this basis it's yes, our pack is good enough. We competed in the top four and made the Challenge cup final.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I think he read this one.'"
Good
He’s world class for England when he doesn’t feel the need to lead by being the one who can speak to the ref while his adrenaline makes that 80 minutes of moaning.
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| The pack is good enough, although I can see why the thread was started given Coops & Hughes 2017 seasons, I’m glad we have another recognised 9 in the squad, adds balance.
I’ll take some convincing that Tasi is good enough to be our 4th prop, so that’s probably where we need to look to next. Would be good if we had 2 or 3 under 21’s coming through adding depth, we could then potentially pool Tasi & Sita’s salary to bring in a better interchange prop.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"The pack is good enough, although I can see why the thread was started given Coops & Hughes 2017 seasons, I’m glad we have another recognised 9 in the squad, adds balance.
I’ll take some convincing that Tasi is good enough to be our 4th prop, so that’s probably where we need to look to next. Would be good if we had 2 or 3 under 21’s coming through adding depth, we could then potentially pool Tasi & Sita’s salary to bring in a better interchange prop.'"
Tasi is a step up from George King however on the very last of their form King was better.
Given on option of King or Sita...I'd have kept King in a heartbeat.
Sita has by and large escaped too much bagging because of his injuries...I'll be watching him in 2019 however he like all gets a clean slate.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Good grief..
Miles off!'"
What? There was a lot wrong in 2017 and it will take time to fix it. 2018 was a good year but we were as far away from winning the GF as we had ever been in the last 8 years.
I would be careful dredging up old predictions as those in glass houses....
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| Bit of fun 71.
All the best.
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| Many posts weren't far off here.
Was Price is blinkered?
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| Actually on a different tangent having re-read this thread,(and this might put the cat amongst the pigeons) are we missing tyrone?
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| Depends what the question is, "good enough" for what? If competitive to make the play offs and the challenge cup semi final, then yes.
If "good enough" to win a GF and the challenge cup final, then no.
Still all to play for, but there's room for a lot of improvement of late.
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| How late can we leave this improvement though? It's definitely there but in 2017 we left it until the middle 8s!
I'd love to think we covering our hand but it's plainly obvious we aren't.
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| Who knows, it may never happen.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Many posts weren't far off here.
Was Price is blinkered?'"
We'll never know. There could have been a real good prop or two who didn't want to come, or a second row with size pace to burn.
What you want to buy is never always immediately available.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Actually on a different tangent having re-read this thread,(and this might put the cat amongst the pigeons) are we missing tyrone?'"
McCarthy, Roberts or Dodds?
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| Your Weatherfield knowledge is sadly lacking, UR.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Your Weatherfield knowledge is sadly lacking, UR.'"
I wish mine was.
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