|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2163 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2017 | Apr 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Meeting on Thursday 27th Dec 7-30pm at Ice Bar, Isis restaurant Bolton rd Pendlebury M278UX. Open meeting, everyone welcome need ideas, suggestions for fundraising & where we are going. Could do with an idea of how many will attend, please support it.
If you don't want Salford Reds rugby to disappear please support the meeting cheers
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 987 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2016 | Sep 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"Meeting on Thursday 27th Dec 7-30pm at Ice Bar, Isis restaurant Bolton rd Pendlebury M278UX. Open meeting, everyone welcome need ideas, suggestions for fundraising & where we are going. Could do with an idea of how many will attend, please support it.
If you don't want Salford Reds rugby to disappear please support the meeting cheers'"
I see you have dropped the City bit.....much better Salford Reds.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1749 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2014 | Nov 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"need ideas, suggestions for fundraising '"
Fundraising will take time so think we need emergency funding in the immediate.
( I am using computers in libraries and the country,despite it's austerity measures,has discovered lots of instant christians on a 2 weeks holiday )
At the meeting on Monday - 'heart of gold' and 'rabbit out of a hat' flickered through my brain.
Small(ish) soccer clubs have been owned by Gold who made his millions through pornography.
I don't have time to moralise at the moment.
His daughter Jacqeline Gold is [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqueline_Goldvery rich[/url and no doubt competitive.Would she be prepared to take on a sports club? She will know Karen Brady who was chief executive at BirminghamCity FC and joined that club with her father.
We need to use the female angle.Can Cavendish Street compose an email or contact her ? The good thing is Gold knows Claire Balding,who is sapphic like Cavendish/Louise,and who not only has positive things to say about rugby league will have contact with Robbie Hunter Paul - haven't read his book;hope he is positive about Salford and Ian Millward - believe his father was a director/involved in financing a club in Australia.
The MEN piece you did,I considered circumspect,concise and crucial and I think will need to be used when contacting Gold.[url=http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/rugby_league/s/1596583_fanfare-to-save-salford-reds-from-doomHere[/url
Long shot I know but deperate times call for desperate measures.
Play on the female side of good housekeeping - Don't mention Kath Hetherington just that men keep taking rugby league clubs into admin.
Please research -everything - before submission.Go for it.........can only be turned down !
That's my time gone.I'll be there Thursday.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 346 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2014 | Oct 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Karen Brady? Have another look at her business record ..... she's one of those many 'successful' people that leave a trail of bankruptcy & relegation behind them yet still seem to jump from high paid job to high paid job!
Would Salford not be better looking closer (a lot, lot closer) to home for finance ...... we're talking about sums of money here that certain footballers look upon as loose change. Has anyone asked, for instance, Paul Scholes if he'd like to buy into the club? He's a Salford lad and like many footballers, he has a big admiration for RL ...... how would Reds fans look upon being owned/run by a consortium of Scholes/Giggs/Keane/Rooney etc? If they split the bill 4 ways it'd less than they spend on cars each year!
Anythings got to be better for you than being at the mercy of Peel holdings and a cash starved council!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7760 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"Robbie Hunter Paul - haven't read his book;hope he is positive about Salford '"
Apparently not.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2481 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2015 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Karen Brady? Have another look at her business record ..... she's one of those many 'successful' people that leave a trail of bankruptcy & relegation behind them yet still seem to jump from high paid job to high paid job!
Would Salford not be better looking closer (a lot, lot closer) to home for finance ...... we're talking about sums of money here that certain footballers look upon as loose change. Has anyone asked, for instance, Paul Scholes if he'd like to buy into the club? He's a Salford lad and like many footballers, he has a big admiration for RL ...... how would Reds fans look upon being owned/run by a consortium of Scholes/Giggs/Keane/Rooney etc? If they split the bill 4 ways it'd less than they spend on cars each year!
Anythings got to be better for you than being at the mercy of Peel holdings and a cash starved council!'"
Good thinking!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1749 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2014 | Nov 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Karen Brady? Have another look at her business record ..... she's one of those many 'successful' people that leave a trail of bankruptcy & relegation behind them yet still seem to jump from high paid job to high paid job!
Anythings got to be better for you than being at the mercy of Peel holdings and a cash starved council!'"
Gold would be the target and Brady a friend telling her about running a sports club in a male-dominated environment.
The idea came about after JW stated he advertised in the Financial Times.This could have resulted in another David Lloyd at Hull FC scenario - though they did strike lucky with the KC Stadium !
Just a pity the reporters in the MEN didn't discuss matters and Albert Finney the actor could have been asked if there was any in that field/film directing who wished to emulate Russell Crowe.
PS - Interesting difference in attitude of councils with Newham Council,in a less than affluent area of London-loaning 40m for the stadium Gold and West Ham United hope to be using -[url=http://www.forestgate.net/easy-come-easy-goClick On The Links[/url
Time is ticking down....
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 146 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2013 | Mar 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The majority of Salford fans feel Forever Reds isn't transparent enough hence Swinton having a larger number of members.
Taking a look at last weeks M.E.N piece made me want to vomit, at the end of the day were in this mess due to pathetic fanancial judgement calls to which we the fans was just expected to put up and shut up with no consultation regarding the recent years of planning of this White elephant. Now all of a sudden Mr Salford wants us the fans to bail him out. He wants to consult now the fan has been hit, no one with any sense would touch us with a barge pole under current standings. I refuse point blank to part with any cash to aid Mr Salfords debt. If the funds were used to help form another club after administration then I'd give my right arm to reform 2013. Administration has to be the only way.
Merry Christmas.....
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 16601 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Nov 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Administration seems the only option for you with the size of debts owing, and that excludes a write off of DL's.
My advice to a fans group is to set up an account and make payments that allow large scale participation, eg from £10 a month to as much as that person wants to commit. Target 1000 fans and £100k pa to take over or if you are allowed to stay in SL become an equity partner in Newco.
RL is a community sport that should encourage community ownership.
The biggest win from administration will be a renegotiated contract with the stadium company, be prepared to walk away from the stadium to force their hand.
Have a Great Christmas and good luck in the weeks ahead.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 13012 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"Fundraising will take time so think we need emergency funding in the immediate.
( I am using computers in libraries and the country,despite it's austerity measures,has discovered lots of instant christians on a 2 weeks holiday )
At the meeting on Monday - 'heart of gold' and 'rabbit out of a hat' flickered through my brain.
Small(ish) soccer clubs have been owned by Gold who made his millions through pornography.
I don't have time to moralise at the moment.
His daughter Jacqeline Gold is [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqueline_Goldvery rich[/url and no doubt competitive.Would she be prepared to take on a sports club? She will know Karen Brady who was chief executive at BirminghamCity FC and joined that club with her father.
We need to use the female angle.Can Cavendish Street compose an email or contact her ? The good thing is Gold knows Claire Balding,who is sapphic like Cavendish/Louise,and who not only has positive things to say about rugby league will have contact with Robbie Hunter Paul - haven't read his book;hope he is positive about Salford and Ian Millward - believe his father was a director/involved in financing a club in Australia.
The MEN piece you did,I considered circumspect,concise and crucial and I think will need to be used when contacting Gold.[url=http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/rugby_league/s/1596583_fanfare-to-save-salford-reds-from-doomHere[/url
Long shot I know but deperate times call for desperate measures.
Play on the female side of good housekeeping - Don't mention Kath Hetherington just that men keep taking rugby league clubs into admin.
Please research -everything - before submission.Go for it.........can only be turned down !
That's my time gone.I'll be there Thursday.'"
This post will inspire many , i know from previous experience what you need it must be shown to access the many who follow and the rest will do so , every team needs a leader , you could be what the Reds are seeking my son , keep it up and you will find it will come to pass .
As with all that wait ye are ready to follow and be counted , im sure Mr Gold will answer the call and show his faith in you .
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1760 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2013 | Jun 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Forget about any footballer investing in the club.
Although they watch RL putting money in is a total different matter.
Besides Rooney supports Saint Helens, Giggs Wigan and not one of them has probably ever been to the Willows or Barton.
It would be great if a friendly match could be organised involving Man United and the proceeds going to Salford.
How about FCUM arranging a game against Salford FC again with proceeds to SRLFC.
Finally everyone always goes on about the Rugby League community so for our friendly against Swinton a 8K crowd with fans attending from all other clubs with all proceeds to Salford would also be a great help.
Problem with any ideas now is that there is just not enough time to get arrangements in place.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7760 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Forget about any footballer investing in the club.
Although they watch RL putting money in is a total different matter.
Besides Rooney supports Saint Helens, Giggs Wigan and not one of them has probably ever been to the Willows or Barton.
It would be great if a friendly match could be organised involving Man United and the proceeds going to Salford.
How about FCUM arranging a game against Salford FC again with proceeds to SRLFC.
Finally everyone always goes on about the Rugby League community so for our friendly against Swinton a 8K crowd with fans attending from all other clubs with all proceeds to Salford would also be a great help.
Problem with any ideas now is that there is just not enough time to get arrangements in place.'"
Rooney is Leeds, bizarrely. I think FCUM and Salford City FC would both have a fair claim to needing money themselves, so I think the best bet would be for the Swinton game to be built up. I'm not holding my breath on that though.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7498 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Philyourboots"If the funds were used to help form another club after administration then I'd give my right arm to reform 2013.'"
I hope FR's meeting discusses contigenticies to that effect.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1749 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2014 | Nov 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Philyourboots"If the funds were used to help form another club after administration then I'd give my right arm to reform 2013. Administration has to be the only way.'"
You may need your right arm if you are the new club secretary/ advertising guru / public relations officer.
Doesn't look like there will be any Christmas Message for the supporters so it's back to the information vacuum.
I hope the RFL ain't keeping quiet while they're waiting for a loan.
Dear Santa,
Mediation skills book urgently required for Philyourboots to accompany his 'Art of political persuasion by gentle words' set.
If FR isn't transparent enough why hasn't anyone else started up an alternative group instead of waiting until now in a vain attempt to cause disaffection.
On the strength of the MEN piece I shall double my pledge as no one has had a better piece publicised.Don't know whether Neil Barker should be praised for editing what was said but it was succinct and appealing.
Anyone out there got any ideas on how the money can be raised prior to 7th Jan ?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1301 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2022 | Mar 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It can't.
What we should be wishing for,from January 7 th is anything other than an adjournment.
Once we know what's happening legally,then a strategy can be formed.
At this stage I would guess that only the people directly involved know what's likely to happen so ,sure have contingency thoughts,but we will need to see what happens.
The events of January 7 th might well flush out an alternative and with the best will in the world it won't be Jacqueline Gold or Paul Scholes !!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7760 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bonita Red"It can't.
What we should be wishing for,from January 7 th is anything other than an adjournment.
'"
I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. Without naming the team in question, Supporters Direct told me that one North West football club had the same winding up petition deferred seven times.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2990 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I think Bet Fred would be something like :-
1/5 Adjournment
3/1 Administration/Liquidation
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1623 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I'll be there Thu. Really struggling financially at the moment but more than willing to give my time to help out where I can. Moving forward I'd happily set up a direct debit to buy shares in a newco/revamped club.
FWIW, It's a shame that some of the RL watching Utd players don't fancy getting involved. If a group of them threw a week's wages into the pot they could pretty much own the club and use the hospitality to their heart's content. As a Utd fan myself I'd love this to happen but there's more chance of Eccles Star, Lancetodd, Mitie Mouse, Gruffy and Philyourboots going on Eggheads and winning!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 1647 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2017 | Aug 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| will JAW be there?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7760 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2018 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bryanthered"will JAW be there?'"
No. This is just a meeting of supporters.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 36 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2022 | Sep 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Iain"No. This is just a meeting of supporters.'"
As it is just a supporters' meeting, can I ask if anyone there will have any real facts and figures because we're going to need them? There are some really searching questions that need to be asked and, more importantly, answered honestly. I'm not sure if this is the right place to air them, as some may be 'sensitive', but they all pretty much revolve around money and might require a legal brain for some of the answers.
I'll try to get there, but it's a long journey for me - 2 hours each way.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 310 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2014 | May 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I would happy to go on eggheads. As for helping club out at moment would not help them as one don't have money and to would not trust the people it was going to look at the mess they created I have had season ticketsf every year also replica jersys. They never answer fans emails they also treat you like there just intrested in money rather than there supporters. Sorry over years I have put money in and what have we had in return nothing crap performances season after season. I don't want to see club finnished but these people running at moment would not want any money going to them. Sorry but I am past caring I tried to get a mascot for nephew for a game a year after I emailed them still waiting for answer. So sorry but I lost intrest because they way they create you its same on Facebook if you don't put what they want to here you get banned. I don't use facebook but my mate got banned for sayin club don't answer emails this is a joke then they banned him. You might want to help a club that's run by that type of person but I don't enough is enough. Most supporters I know and speak to say the same but they don't air there views. So forever reds good look in your quest but can't see many wanting to help
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1301 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2022 | Mar 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| You're sort of missing the point of this thread!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 574 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2014 | Feb 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The meeting is about saving Salford not person or persons,and I am sure the club is aware of that,the fight to
save the club is not only for the future but also for the people who have given so much down the years,players
directors and supporters your relatives and mine.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1749 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2014 | Nov 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bonita Red"The events of January 7 th might well flush out an alternative and with the best will in the world it won't be Jacqueline Gold or Paul Scholes !!'"
Okay then,as it is a religious time of the year - and having read about the top man at Peel Holdings - how about former Man U player Denis Irwin - quiet,unassuming or Roy Keane,he went to NZ and studied coaching and training of the All-Blacks and has been to a few games and [url=http://blogs.bettor.com/Warrington-Wolves-inspirational-session-with-Roy-Keane-sweeps-them-to-victory-over-Wildcats-a109681involved himself in this[/url
Quote ="tonyXIII"
As it is just a supporters' meeting, can I ask if anyone there will have any real facts and figures because we're going to need them? There are some really searching questions that need to be asked and, more importantly, answered honestly. I'm not sure if this is the right place to air them, as some may be 'sensitive', but they all pretty much revolve around money and might require a legal brain for some of the answers.
'"
If the club is sleepwalking into oblivion and has been joined by everyone else in the omerta - repect to Chev Walker - one person who could give advice would be the guy from North Wales Crusaders.
The reasons for their failure to gain a place in the Championship and end up in the lowest tier Championship 1
is a tad worrying - [url=http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12040/7196990/Crusaders-refused-entryStory[/url
Dunno the timescale of business plans for either Championship or Championship 1 and when and how far in advance the RFL need the information but [url=http://www.superleaguefans.com/crusaders-rl/2011/08/24/a-joint-statement-from-crusaders-and-save-the-cru.htmlan experience from not too far away[/url
|
|
|
|
|