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[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/nov/01/crusaders-winding-up-order-super-leagueAndy Wilson[/url
Now Sir Rodney has put his hand in his pocket to bale out Trinity it seems HMRC have turned their attention to Wrexham.
Is there any sugar daddy primed to bale this lot out ?
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Im sure the RFL will given them a helping hand if needs be....expaning the game is one of their main aims especially that they are getting bigger crowds down there than they were in bridgend.
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its a joke! if they do get away with it then surely they should be punished and not with points but it shouldnt look to well on the CV for the franchise.
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| Quote ="The optimist"Im sure the RFL will given them a helping hand if needs be....expaning the game is one of their main aims especially that they are getting bigger crowds down there than they were in bridgend.'"
not for all games
us in 2009 3009 2010 2412
quins 2009 3009 2010 1122
wak 2009 2089 2010 2837 an improvement
wigan 2009 5253 2010 6075 " "
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| Quote ="Bigpev"not for all games
us in 2009 3009 2010 2412
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so some teams did'"
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| Quote ="Iain"The Quins game was played in South Wales in 2010.'"
I know but according to the Super League it was played at Wrexham, no wonder the press get it wrong. |
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| Quote ="Chris Charles No1 Fan"its a joke! if they do get away with it then surely they should be punished and not with points but it shouldnt look to well on the CV for the franchise.'"
" shouldn't be allowed to get away with it " has been an often used term for many a club's Indiscretions’ , Salary Cap Breaches , Quinns Bi-annual folding and resurections , even occassionally levelled at us for our David Copperfield style antics at the stadium site pre franchise 2008. 
a couple of phrases that stuck :-
Quote A spokesman for the Rugby Football League confirmed that "we've opened dialogue with them to try and get things sorted out", with further information expected this week.'"
So it appears RFL are continuing their support to a bankrupt and [ipossibly[/i fraudulent venture..
Quote "unlawful deduction of wages regarding pensions provision that hasn't been set up". The payments were supposed to go into an offshore fund based in Guernsey. It is not known if the two cases are linked, and the Crusaders failed to respond to inquiries about the situation today.'"
Quote Jon Sharp, the former Huddersfield coach, is expected to leave the club'"
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[url=http://www.superleaguefans.com/crusaders-rl/crusaders-issue-statement.htmlCrusaders Statement[/url
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I sincerely hope they go under.
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If they go it will save the Rugby League from any legal action from the existing Super League club that gets kicked out after the early announcement that a Championship side would get in next time, invalidating the licence process straight away.
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| Quote ="Rooted Red"I sincerely hope they go under.'"
you got your wish according to the Sun  [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3208952/Writ-puts-Crusaders-intio-admin.htmlCru into administration[/url |
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Middleman I dont think there is a writ from Samuels. He has raised an invoice yes but apparently there is no writ.....................yet.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Middleman I dont think there is a writ from Samuels. He has raised an invoice yes but apparently there is no writ.....................yet.'"
OK , don't want to appear like a vulture waiting to pick over the pieces but it's not looking rosy down at Wrecsam and the Tabloid obviously felt they enough info to print ..
+ Oldham still have a HMRC winding up order hanging , comments abound suggesting the HMRC are not yet finished with other RL clubs and unpaid taxes. It's close season:- a sticky time for any Rugby league club , especially a Full time staffed one . |
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Hmm - if you sup with the devil use a long spoon!!
The whole formation of Crusaders in South Wales with a disaffected RU guy seemed odd - I'm trying not to invite a legal challenge - but just possibly could the RFL be accused of being naive in believing much of what Mr Samuels said?
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Hmm - if you sup with the devil use a long spoon!!
The whole formation of Crusaders in South Wales with a disaffected RU guy seemed odd - I'm trying not to invite a legal challenge - but just possibly could the RFL be accused of being naive in believing much of what Mr Samuels said?'"
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The move to Liquidate Crusaders and then start afresh surely CEMENTS our postion in the Franchise Bid next year. There is now no way the RFL can surely kick out Cas, Salford or even Wakey or that matter. Not been a bad day has it?
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Early bath this move by the crusaders must be seen as a move to keep celtic going in superleague @ all costs, or is it just me ?
The rfl need to expand the game so keeping quins n celtic going is important, the product (rugby league / super league) will lose some of its punch when trying to attract new sponsors / new fans if eather go under / lose their franchise, that is why both will make the cut and wakey or /and cas wont.
Dont get me wrong this guy from wakefield paying their debts has given the rfl a headake but im sure they will nail then for somthing else.
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Wasn't the reason given for Widnes' failed bid the fact that they had gone bust ?
Celtic/Crusaders will now have had this happen twice.
Added to the fact that they have upped sticks so essentially this is a brand new franchise.
If they put in new Rules for them I would expect a Legal challenge from whoever is booted out and I would also expect Widnes could justifiably claim as well.
Another FU by the RFL
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Is it only me that thinks the RFL will move the goalposts in a massive way and increase the size of the league to prevent any fallout from this latest booboo.
Can't see any other way around it myself if they want to keep both London and the Crusaders in the league and promote a team from a lower division.
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I heard a rumour that there was to be 2 teams in next year, there was huge opposition to this so it was scrapped
This Crusaders issue has therefore come at a very opportune time for the RFL.
Keep them in so keeping up the pretence of expansionism, allow in a Championship team and no one is booted out.
15 team league with a rest week every couple of weeks to compensate for the odd number of teams.
That keeps everyone happy for another 3 years till the circus starts again.
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I sent the following mail to the RFL and mr Blake Solly yesterday and surprise surprise, they have forgotten to answer. If anyone else would like to have a go at emailing red hall, the addresses are........... reception@rfl.uk.com and blake.solly@rfl.uk.com.
Blake Solly is the compliance officer at the RFL and should be in a position to answer your emails
good luck
With the news that the Crusaders are going into admin. and a new company is to be formed, does that company have a franchise for next season and which well run club will be stuffed by the RFL at the next round of franchises to make room for this poor business model. If I were the chairman of one of the 'less favoured ' clubs I would already have solicitors looking at this matter.
Even the RFL cant say that this is 'openness and fairness' in practise.
For the sake of the game get rid of these leeching clubs (crus and quins) and lets get back to being a real sport with promotion and relegation.
As the situation has moved on and the crusaders are looking at reforming as a new company, will they have a franchise for next season ? If so, could you please explain the ruling on that one, because Widnes were not allowed into Superleague because they went into administration. Will the new company have to apply for a franchise at the next round or will they be assured of a place at the top table as the previous crusaders were ?
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Blake Solly is the compliance officer at the RFL and should be in a position to answer your emails
good luck
With the news that the Crusaders are going into admin. and a new company is to be formed, does that company have a franchise for next season and which well run club will be stuffed by the RFL at the next round of franchises to make room for this poor business model. If I were the chairman of one of the 'less favoured ' clubs I would already have solicitors looking at this matter.
Even the RFL cant say that this is 'openness and fairness' in practise.
For the sake of the game get rid of these leeching clubs (crus and quins) and lets get back to being a real sport with promotion and relegation.
As the situation has moved on and the crusaders are looking at reforming as a new company, will they have a franchise for next season ? If so, could you please explain the ruling on that one, because Widnes were not allowed into Superleague because they went into administration. Will the new company have to apply for a franchise at the next round or will they be assured of a place at the top table as the previous crusaders were ?
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I agree with the calls for a 15 team league. I think 2 bye weeks per season for each team give a chance for players to recover from injures and should enhance the quality of the competition. It also give two windows in the season where fans know they can book holidays without missing games. |
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| Quote ="Iain"There's a Mr Solly at the RFL? Love it
we must be nailed on for another franchise.
I agree with the calls for a 15 team league. I think 2 bye weeks per season for each team give a chance for players to recover from injures and should enhance the quality of the competition. It also give two windows in the season where fans know they can book holidays without missing games.'"
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| Quote ="Iain"There's a Mr Solly at the RFL? Love it
we must be nailed on for another franchise.
I agree with the calls for a 15 team league. I think 2 bye weeks per season for each team give a chance for players to recover from injures and should enhance the quality of the competition. It also give two windows in the season where fans know they can book holidays without missing games.'"
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we must be nailed on for another franchise.
