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| I enjoyed myself at Crusaders for some bizzare reason, but yesterday I could not bring myself to go and give more money and time to a team who just can not give a fook.
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| The thing is with Mcrae is that he has no passion for the club, hes only at the club for the sake of him being a SL coach, there are so many better coaches out there just the only person who can do anything about it(Johnny Wilky) doesnt see it
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"yesterday I could not bring myself to go and give more money and time to a team who just can not give a fook.'"
Your attendance wouldn't have given more money to the team.
If you didn't want to go, just say so - don't pretend it was some kind of moral stance?!
Quote ="corvospace"there are so many better coaches out there'"
Like who? Name names???
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| We could have a blanket collection, at the Wakefield game to pay Mcrae up
seeing that the board have not got the money.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Your attendance wouldn't have given more money to the team.
If you didn't want to go, just say so - don't pretend it was some kind of moral stance?!
Like who? Name names???'"
I read on the NRL website that 10 head coaches contracts run out at the end of next season and want there long term futures sorting out so any of them if they were willing to leave a year early, if not Paul Anderson, Keiron Purtill
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| Quote ="corvospace"I read on the NRL website that 10 head coaches contracts run out at the end of next season and want there long term futures sorting out so any of them if they were willing to leave a year early, if not Paul Anderson, Keiron Purtill'"
And how many of them could we afford?
And, of those who we could afford, how many would want to come to Salford??
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| Quote ="corvospace"I read on the NRL website that 10 head coaches contracts run out at the end of next season and want there long term futures sorting out so any of them if they were willing to leave a year early, if not Paul Anderson, Keiron Purtill'"
Do the board no what the NRL website is
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Your attendance wouldn't have given more money to the team.
If you didn't want to go, just say so - don't pretend it was some kind of moral stance?!
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Moral Stance
Alright I did not want to go, McRae is doing a great job and everything is fine and Dandy
Happy now
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"And how many of them could we afford?
And, of those who we could afford, how many would want to come to Salford??'"
I think you'd be surprised, theres only 14 SL head coaches, and jobs are few and far between, and the money were branding about I dont see why we couldnt afford one
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| I have a feeling that there is a battle of wills between players and coach at present, looks like with our virtual new team coming in there is only going to be one winner.....
Im sure the 100-300 had a few beers to drown out the disapointment
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| Quote ="david caesar"we should get rid of Laurel and Hardy aka McRae and Simms and move heaven and earth to get John Kear in - he must be getting pi$$ed off at Wakefield by now - I think we could really achieve under Kear and our new signings for next season - please JW pick up the phone and give JK a ring
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I know I am an outsider ,but that statement baffles me.
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Moral Stance
Alright I did not want to go, McRae is doing a great job and everything is fine and Dandy
Happy now
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Not at all. You've just gone from spitting your dummy in one direction to spitting it in the other.
The fact still remains that your attendance at yesterday's game would've had no impact on the amount of money the team got. Nor does it have any bearing on how good or bad our coach is.
Still, let's not let that get in the way you spouting tripe, eh?!
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| the players dont like the slug they say all he talks about his how good the other team are and in the team meetings the aussies just talk amongst themselves they have got know respect for him he needs to go FACT
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Not at all. You've just gone from spitting your dummy in one direction to spitting it in the other.
The fact still remains that your attendance at yesterday's game would've had no impact on the amount of money the team got. Nor does it have any bearing on how good or bad our coach is.
Still, let's not let that get in the way you spouting tripe, eh?!'"
Wont even get involved as you are always right.
It must be really good to be you
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| Quote ="ste nash"the players dont like the slug they say all he talks about his how good the other team are and in the team meetings the aussies just talk amongst themselves they have got know respect for him he needs to go FACT'"
So many people say this kind of thing that i guess there must be some truth in it. What I can't understand is why, if this is the case, that players like Holdsworth, Henry, Broughton, Jewitt and Sidlow sign contract extensions. We can't be paying them that much surely??
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| Quote ="RedUnderTheBed"So many people say this kind of thing that i guess there must be some truth in it. What I can't understand is why, if this is the case, that players like Holdsworth, Henry, Broughton, Jewitt and Sidlow sign contract extensions. We can't be paying them that much surely??'"
Exactly what I thought, not one player this season has turned us down so cant he cant be that bad
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| Quote ="corvospace"Exactly what I thought, not one player this season has turned us down so cant he cant be that bad'"
Maybe they've been told he won't be here next season?? Could partly explain how and why we've been signing good players. I don't know if this is true whatsoever, and I doubt it, but it could have something to do with it.
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Wont even get involved as you are always right.
It must be really good to be you'"
And a third dummy-spit of the day without posting anything even vaguely constructive!
Well down, that must be close to a personal best for you?
By all means keep up the ridiculous comments and petty name calling but I'd still love to hear a reasoned explanation of your original post no this thread.
Won't be holding my breath though .....
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"And a third dummy-spit of the day without posting anything even vaguely constructive!
Well down, that must be close to a personal best for you?
By all means keep up the ridiculous comments and petty name calling but I'd still love to hear a reasoned explanation of your original post no this thread.
Won't be holding my breath though .....'"
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"We usually take a decent following to Huddersfield every year so I don't see why you could be surprised at that?'"
Whooosh
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"
won't be holding my breath though .....'"
Really dont know why I am rising to it but here goes.
I originally said
"I enjoyed myself at Crusaders for some bizzare reason, but yesterday I could not bring myself to go and give more money and time to a team who just can not give a fook"
To explain
1/I enjoyed my Visit to North Wales.
2/ I decided not to go to Huddersfield as I have seen enough leatherings this year.
3/I had other things to spend my money and time on on Sunday, maybe if I had said this it would have been clearer for you?
4/The present players have stopped trying and are just waiting for the end of the season.
Hope this clears things up.
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| My Boss put it rather well today.
He is a big Wigan fan and knows his RL. He says better than SM would struggle with Salfords team at the minute and think that is without doubt true. Think that SM has lost the dressing room and that all that is keeping him in his job is the fact that paying his contract off would cost a considerable amount of money. He did also ask a rather valid point in who we in our current state we would attract as a new coach?.
Again something he said rang true and was rather worrying, we have without doubt recruited better for next season than we have done in some considerable time, what we don't want to happen is SM to ruin the good players we have recuited and have then jump ship at the first oppertunity.
For me if there is any possible oppertunity and there is a replacement of a certain qaulity available I think letting SM go would be the best outcome for all.
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| Also think that SM saying in the press that our youngsters are being outclassed is not going to be a moral booster for them. Think Wilky will be unhappy with that kind of statement when there are kids who are being thrown in at the deep end surrounded by players who are leaving the club and clearly have stopped careing, thus ensuring they don't have the onfield guidance they very much need.
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| The question for me is
Can you see improvement each week, month, year?
Can you see what McRae is trying to achieve?
Can you see what direction the club is moving in?
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"I'm not McRae's biggest fan but nor am I desperate for us to get rid of him. I think we've sone as expected this year (finished in the bottom three) and very much doubt whether any other coach could've taken us any further.
I can understand fans' frustrations at the recent drubbings we've endured but with nothing to play for, several key injuries, several players leaving and lots of youngsters playing, it's no surprise.
I think it would be daft to get rid of McRae now (or even to blame him fully for our recent poor results) but agree that next year will be a real test of his ability as a coach.
What does really concern me about McRae, as mentioned above, is the way he talks about the team/club/fans in interviews - it's almost identical to Gary Megson when he was at Wanderers and ultimately led to his downfall. I just wish McRae would show more passion, loyality and/or dedication to the Reds.'"
Mcrae is showing loyalty he is honouring is contract and people show passion
in different ways,I bet Mr Mcrae wishes some of the players showed some passion, some of players we have at the club think they are better than they are that is why he is getting rid.
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