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| Can anyone enlighten me on what he is actually doing for his money. After loads of Hype when he was appointed all that has happened is we have scrapped the eights and made a few minor rule changes which have made little difference to the game ,
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| Think he’s spent a lot of time cleaning out Big Niges office from the coke cans, crisp packets and take away containers.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Can anyone enlighten me on what he is actually doing for his money. After loads of Hype when he was appointed all that has happened is we have scrapped the eights and made a few minor rule changes which have made little difference to the game ,'"
Given that Robert Elstone can command a £500k salary from any number of football clubs and businesses with interests in sport, you can be sure that he's not at SL for the pay cheque. His BIG job is delivering an improved TV deal when the rights come up in a couple of years. He will be spending the time in the build-up to that negotiation working on that mission above all others. Fans are quick to criticise RL for short-term thinking: that's not why Robert was brought in. This is a 3-5 year project AT LEAST as all strategic marketing policies should be. Give the bloke time.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Given that Robert Elstone can command a £500k salary from any number of football clubs and businesses with interests in sport, you can be sure that he's not at SL for the pay cheque. His BIG job is delivering an improved TV deal when the rights come up in a couple of years. He will be spending the time in the build-up to that negotiation working on that mission above all others. Fans are quick to criticise RL for short-term thinking: that's not why Robert was brought in. This is a 3-5 year project AT LEAST as all strategic marketing policies should be. Give the bloke time.'"
Have to agree. Carter at Wakefield appeared to be rubbish in his first two seasons. Little did we know the excellent work he was doing behind the scenes. To go forward sometime you need to or at least appear to go backwards. This guy may fail but he’s no mug and he’ll give it his best shot I’m sure.
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| He’s not been doing the job long and he’s completely changed the league set-up. One-up, one-down, 5 team play-offs and no Million Pound Game. That’s a huge change.
Also the rule changes you’ve said have hardly made a difference have seen much more action with less viewing time wasted. And the Golden Point extra time is a great exciting change.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"He’s not been doing the job long and he’s completely changed the league set-up. One-up, one-down, 5 team play-offs and no Million Pound Game. That’s a huge change.
Also the rule changes you’ve said have hardly made a difference have seen much more action with less viewing time wasted. And the Golden Point extra time is a great exciting change.'"
Hate the golden point tbh, it’s stupid. RL was never a game you could play for draw so utterly pointless attempt to create jeopardy. Other than that ok so far.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"He’s not been doing the job long and he’s completely changed the league set-up. One-up, one-down, 5 team play-offs and no Million Pound Game. That’s a huge change.'"
TBF we change the format every 3/4 years anyway so it’d would changed regardless of who was in charge.
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| Quote ="vastman"Hate the golden point tbh, it’s stupid. RL was never a game you could play for draw so utterly pointless attempt to create jeopardy. Other than that ok so far.'"
I agree, even though Leeds benefitted from it last week I still think we should’ve stuck with draws. It’s not like theirs loads of draws during the year anyway and whilst last week it was won on the first set of 6 with a unexpected long effort we could easily see 10 mins of scrappy poor attempts at 1 pointers the next time.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I agree, even though Leeds benefitted from it last week I still think we should’ve stuck with draws. It’s not like theirs loads of draws during the year anyway and whilst last week it was won on the first set of 6 with a unexpected long effort we could easily see 10 mins of scrappy poor attempts at 1 pointers the next time.'"
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"He’s not been doing the job long and he’s completely changed the league set-up. One-up, one-down, 5 team play-offs and no Million Pound Game. That’s a huge change.
Also the rule changes you’ve said have hardly made a difference have seen much more action with less viewing time wasted. And the Golden Point extra time is a great exciting change.'"
Agree with you Psychedelic Casual. Im happy with he he has changed the game so far , the game had become stagnant .
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| Wigan think he is doing a great job as a puppet , me i will give him time but do not see much in the way of sponsorship coming in as yet
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Wigan think he is doing a great job as a puppet , me i will give him time but do not see much in the way of sponsorship coming in as yet'"
If his remit is primarily to secure a decent TV deal, then, I guess we all have to wait and see.
However, he certainly missed a trick by not finding a way to include Toronto and Toulouse in SL.
We've been hearing about just how good Toronto will be for the game of RL and yet, a restructure, designed to "improve" the sport
left them outside the top flight.
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| Toronto is a joke , they may as well be called knockabout Nomads . They do not play in Canada , have no Canadian players and have been skint once already .
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Also the rule changes you’ve said have hardly made a difference have seen much more action with less viewing time wasted. And the Golden Point extra time is a great exciting change.'"
If you thought the Leeds cas extra time was exciting then you are an imbecile, and people wonder why southerners view rugby league as a sport for dumb northerners, as soon as the game ended all square the only outcome would be 2 Pts to Leeds considering cas had no one to kick a dg
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| Quote ="dodger666"If you thought the Leeds cas extra time was exciting then you are an imbecile, and people wonder why southerners view rugby league as a sport for dumb northerners, as soon as the game ended all square the only outcome would be 2 Pts to Leeds considering cas had no one to kick a dg'"
Exactly. Whereas Leeds had drop goal specialist Brad Dwyer. A foregone conclusion.
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When were Toronto skint?
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Never skint to my knowledge......just withholding payments from suppliers and generally bullying others with threats to take their business elsewhere........the craft guys are the driving force behind Toronto BTW........they actually sell tickets, whist the "rugby" (sic) organisation still distributes over 5,000 free tickets each week........so no, not Skint, but as with a number of RL clubs, if one bloke gets hit by a bus today, the club is gone tomorrow!
When is their first game in Canada this year? It's 11 degrees at present.......forecast for barrow at the weekend is 8 degrees......
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... n-nou-camp
“Super League needed to freshen up, and that’s probably putting it modestly.” Barely five minutes have passed since the Dictaphone was switched on, and it is clear Robert Elstone is in no mood to mince his words. For months, the Super League chief executive has promised a revolution for British rugby league’s elite competition amid a backdrop of boardroom politics but you sense the 54-year-old finally feels as though he is making progress as 2019 begins.
Last week Super League unveiled its self-titled “new beginnings” for 2019; a series of law changes aimed at revolutionising the image of the competition. Interchanges have been reduced, while shot clocks designed to speed up games and golden point extra-time are being implemented for 2019 – but Elstone’s plans for change do not end there. “Super League will be different in 2019, that’s for sure,” he explains. “But you’ll see a much better-looking competition in 2020 and the years after that. That’s a guarantee.”
Expanding Super League’s global reach is high on Elstone’s agenda, underlined by the possibility that the traditional Magic Weekend could have an international flavour to it sooner rather than later, with Barcelona a likely venue for the event. In May, Catalans will host the reigning champions, Wigan, at the Camp Nou and while Magic will have a new home at Anfield in 2019, Elstone admits that the success of that game in Catalonia could set the stage for all 12 clubs to play in Barcelona at some point.
“If that worked, then it would increase the chances of Magic going there without question,” Elstone says. “I think Wigan playing Catalans there is the most incredible development we’ve had for years. It’s a huge statement and it creates huge traction beyond our traditional circles. Super League has to get out of its own bubble, and the Nou Camp helps do that. It’s not lost on me that our sport has a rebellious soul, and was founded out of injustice. If there’s one region of the world that captures that, it’s Catalonia.”
As the former Everton CEO begins to share his vision for a sport he began watching on the terraces of Castleford over 40 years ago, it is not difficult to see the strains of the first six months in the job showing. Most of that period was spent entrenched in a public dispute with prominent lower-league clubs about a restructure of the leagues in 2019, which was successfully achieved in September, with confirmation that the Super 8s format would end in 2018.
Despite that victory, Elstone is in no mood to stand still. Next month he will move a new-look team of staff – many of whom have been poached from the RFL – out of the governing body’s headquarters in Salford into the centre of Manchester, emphasising the differing directions of the two parties moving into 2019. Talk of a split between Super League and the RFL is not wide of the mark.
“Getting a group of people focused solely on Super League is well overdue,” Elstone says. “I don’t think the competition got the focus that it should have had. A big part of all this is about giving the competition accountability. We’re accountable for our actions now so there’s a spotlight on us we’re conscious of, but one we’re excited about. We need to break out of our bubble and aim big for this competition.”
Part of Elstone’s vision includes, by his own admission, looking to Australia’s NRL for inspiration. “I’ll no doubt be branded an NRL sycophant,” he smiles when explaining why Super League has emulated the NRL in adopting golden point extra-time. “The drama of a period of time to decide a winner excites me,” he says. “There were a number of variations on the table, including golden try rather than golden point, but aligning ourselves with the NRL was the major factor.”
Other significant changes will follow in 2020, including the introduction of two referees per game rather than one: a law amendment again inspired by the NRL. “We came close to doing it in 2019, and had club approvals and budgets signed off, but it was just too late,” Elstone says. “I’m pretty confident you’ll see it in 2020 though. With the changes to speed the game up, it will put undoubted pressure on officials in 2019. We have to listen to referees and give them more help in-game, and a second referee does that.”
The Man of Steel award will change from an end-of-season dinner to a week-by-week voting process that is made public throughout, while the World Club Challenge will also receive a “long-term focus” as part of Elstone’s plans for overhaul. Yet despite all that, Elstone concedes the challenge of giving Super League increased profile in a world where everyone is fighting for attention will be a difficult ask.
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“Super League needed to freshen up, and that’s probably putting it modestly.” Barely five minutes have passed since the Dictaphone was switched on, and it is clear Robert Elstone is in no mood to mince his words. For months, the Super League chief executive has promised a revolution for British rugby league’s elite competition amid a backdrop of boardroom politics but you sense the 54-year-old finally feels as though he is making progress as 2019 begins.
Last week Super League unveiled its self-titled “new beginnings” for 2019; a series of law changes aimed at revolutionising the image of the competition. Interchanges have been reduced, while shot clocks designed to speed up games and golden point extra-time are being implemented for 2019 – but Elstone’s plans for change do not end there. “Super League will be different in 2019, that’s for sure,” he explains. “But you’ll see a much better-looking competition in 2020 and the years after that. That’s a guarantee.”
Expanding Super League’s global reach is high on Elstone’s agenda, underlined by the possibility that the traditional Magic Weekend could have an international flavour to it sooner rather than later, with Barcelona a likely venue for the event. In May, Catalans will host the reigning champions, Wigan, at the Camp Nou and while Magic will have a new home at Anfield in 2019, Elstone admits that the success of that game in Catalonia could set the stage for all 12 clubs to play in Barcelona at some point.
“If that worked, then it would increase the chances of Magic going there without question,” Elstone says. “I think Wigan playing Catalans there is the most incredible development we’ve had for years. It’s a huge statement and it creates huge traction beyond our traditional circles. Super League has to get out of its own bubble, and the Nou Camp helps do that. It’s not lost on me that our sport has a rebellious soul, and was founded out of injustice. If there’s one region of the world that captures that, it’s Catalonia.”
As the former Everton CEO begins to share his vision for a sport he began watching on the terraces of Castleford over 40 years ago, it is not difficult to see the strains of the first six months in the job showing. Most of that period was spent entrenched in a public dispute with prominent lower-league clubs about a restructure of the leagues in 2019, which was successfully achieved in September, with confirmation that the Super 8s format would end in 2018.
Despite that victory, Elstone is in no mood to stand still. Next month he will move a new-look team of staff – many of whom have been poached from the RFL – out of the governing body’s headquarters in Salford into the centre of Manchester, emphasising the differing directions of the two parties moving into 2019. Talk of a split between Super League and the RFL is not wide of the mark.
“Getting a group of people focused solely on Super League is well overdue,” Elstone says. “I don’t think the competition got the focus that it should have had. A big part of all this is about giving the competition accountability. We’re accountable for our actions now so there’s a spotlight on us we’re conscious of, but one we’re excited about. We need to break out of our bubble and aim big for this competition.”
Part of Elstone’s vision includes, by his own admission, looking to Australia’s NRL for inspiration. “I’ll no doubt be branded an NRL sycophant,” he smiles when explaining why Super League has emulated the NRL in adopting golden point extra-time. “The drama of a period of time to decide a winner excites me,” he says. “There were a number of variations on the table, including golden try rather than golden point, but aligning ourselves with the NRL was the major factor.”
Other significant changes will follow in 2020, including the introduction of two referees per game rather than one: a law amendment again inspired by the NRL. “We came close to doing it in 2019, and had club approvals and budgets signed off, but it was just too late,” Elstone says. “I’m pretty confident you’ll see it in 2020 though. With the changes to speed the game up, it will put undoubted pressure on officials in 2019. We have to listen to referees and give them more help in-game, and a second referee does that.”
The Man of Steel award will change from an end-of-season dinner to a week-by-week voting process that is made public throughout, while the World Club Challenge will also receive a “long-term focus” as part of Elstone’s plans for overhaul. Yet despite all that, Elstone concedes the challenge of giving Super League increased profile in a world where everyone is fighting for attention will be a difficult ask.
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