Has Joel Moon at Leeds been better than Jamie Lyon when at saints?

Simple answer, No

Nowhere near. He is very good and one of the best centres in the league. But Lyon was world class.

If you take lyon points from kicks out of the equation how do they compare in space and providing scoring opertunities for their wing men

No he's not. Gidley at Saints is the better comparison.

Lyon in 2005
20 tries
24 assists

Moon in 2014
6 tries
15 assists

Gidley in 2008
8 tries
22 assists

Tomkins in 2012


28 tries
33 assists

Lyon - easily. Moon is still a class player though, very underrated.

If you take lyon points from kicks out of the equation how do they compare in space and providing scoring opertunities for their wing men

I like Moon but he's way short of Gidley and absolutely nowhere near Lyon!

Lyon is the best centre of the SL era imo, yes only 2 years but he was all class.

Moon is a very good SL player but not in the World Class category.

Lyon is one of the best players to have graced the superleague. Moon is a quality centre but he's not in Lyon's bracket.

There are several centres who have played for Leeds in the SL era who are arguably better than Moon, but behind Lyon: Godden, Blackmore, Carroll, Senior, Watkins... He's a better centre than Brett Delaney, Clinton Toopi, Chris McKenna and Chev Walker though

Lyon could also play halfback. He was all class in everything he did. But Moon is a very good play, hence why he's in my fantasy team.

Boo (Saints lost)
Yeah (Moon scored and Hardacker)

Keith Senior at his best was easily as good as Lyon. Paul Newlove was also superb at his peak.

Those are the only two at Lyon's level in the Suoerleague era imo. Maybe Richie Barnett on his day too.

Loved watching both Newlove and Senior in their prime.

Senior maybe for a season or two.
Nowhere near as good over a long career at the top in the toughest League like Lyon has performed at.
Lyon set SL alight in his two seasons in exile.

Lyon was the best Saints centre since Meninga and one of the best players to play in SL.
Joel Moon is a quality player but not Lyon.

Somebody mentioned Paul Newlove, the best quickest feet for a big lad i've ever seen.

Lyon every time.

Not a patch on Senior, never mind Lyon.

This, exactly. Moon never struck meas anything special when he at the Warriors, but he's been terrific for Leeds. I still remember Lyon playing for Saints, though. I like him even less now he's playing for Manly, of course.

Richie Barnett Sr as a centre at Hull is up there with your Gidley's, better than Moon IMO, certainly knew how to knock 'em down

Keith Senior mentioned in the same breath as Jamie Lyon and Paul Newlove

Good argument, well constructed. It's pure chance that Senior is the second highest try scorer in Super League history and that whoever played outside him consistently scored bucketloads of tries. He was immense throughout his time at Leeds.

Keith Senior couldn't do a single thing better than either of the other two mentioned.

He was a good centre but Newlove or Lyon !? No, I'm afraid not.