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| Ive been extremley impressed with Wane since he took over the reins at Wigan. He's not just maintained a winning side, he's recreated it and taken it a step further. Like many successful coaches he has fear and respect from the players. I doubt Hock or Hardaker would dare attempt to cross the line or break any rules with Wane.When Mcnamara was hired as England coach there were no successful english coaches you could name and Mcnamara was taken on with little experience or any trophies. Time has moved on since then and the England appointment should reflect that change with a choice of better british coach.Mcnamara has been given a good chance and I'm afraid its time to give someone else a shot. He has a good job at tge Roosters let him stay there.
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| Nah
Keep reading these forums, there are far betters coaches, RL officers and match officials than enough.
Each one is far superior than the current incumbents. They say so with every post and yet are not CONSISTANT amongst themselves.
Go figure.
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| Just about anyone in SL would be an improvement on McNamara.
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| I'm sure at some stage he will be. I'm interested to see how it will work out with McNamara. He didn't have any success at club level but he took over just as Bradford's financial troubles became apparent and lost most of their best players.
Working in the NRL under Robinson he will be learning a great deal, not only about coaching but about the NRL, their systems and players. That could be a huge benefit to England and our chances.
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| I think theres still some legs left in McNamara.
Right now he's got a seat at one of the top clubs in the NRL, learning the latest in training and tactical protocols.
That can only help in england. If we don't put up a good showing down under in november, it's time to move on.
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| It depends what we want from our England team. Wane seems to coach his team to play a certain way and that's slightly different from how most SL teams play.
That's not a criticism of Wane by the way I think Wane (and his style) is worth a go.
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| Quote ="Him"It depends what we want from our England team. Wane seems to coach his team to play a certain way and that's slightly different from how most SL teams play.
That's not a criticism of Wane by the way I think Wane (and his style) is worth a go.'"
I think he could be worth a go next.
But note of caution, Wane's and Wigan's style and greatest strength, structure, comes from being with each other week-in week-out. When he'd only get the England team for a few weeks before taking on the Aussies and Kiwis plus one or two get togethers during the year would that impressive structured style be able to rub off in such a smaller time frame to implement it???
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| I think Wane would make a great England coach, no nonsense approach getting the best out of each player when it matters.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I think he could be worth a go next.
But note of caution, Wane's and Wigan's style and greatest strength, structure, comes from being with each other week-in week-out. When he'd only get the England team for a few weeks before taking on the Aussies and Kiwis plus one or two get togethers during the year would that impressive structured style be able to rub off in such a smaller time frame to implement it???'"
I agree with what you're saying but maybe that structured approach might be easier for players to fit into rather than trying to adapt to different players individual styles.
That, along with Wane's ability to get players to run through walls, is why I'd be tempted to have him as next England coach. But it would require slightly different players in certain positions I think, there'd certainly be no place for Rangi Chase in that kind of England team. In fact I'd play 2 very structured halves under Wane (probably Smith and Widdop).
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I'm sure at some stage he will be. I'm interested to see how it will work out with McNamara. He didn't have any success at club level but he took over just as Bradford's financial troubles became apparent and lost most of their best players.
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No he didn't. He took over after the Bulls won their last championship and his poor leadership exacerbated the situation that caused those financial troubles. The drain of top players, however, started before he took over and really began with the signing of Harris on a massively over inflated salary. That did for Peacock and Pryce and the rest just sort of trickled off after them.
But even so, he took over a team who were champions and by the time he left they were also rans who failed to make the play offs even with those places expanded to 8 teams. And he left because he got the England job? The only thing that can be taken from that is that no one else wanted the England job. At least, no one with coaching qualifications.
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| Would get my vote.
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| McNamara was one missed tackle from getting England to a World Cup Final, he oversaw what would have gone down as one of our finest test matches, had it not been for those awful final moments.
Ok, he made a few mistakes before and during the competition, but I'm sure it was a huge learning curve for him. Behind the scenes he did a great job of putting together a proper training set up and ended all the club mentality nonsense which blighted previous years.
Having said all that, I would be interested to see Wane or Powell coach GB next year.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"McNamara was one missed tackle from getting England to a World Cup Final, he oversaw what would have gone down as one of our finest test matches, had it not been for those awful final moments. '" Yes, but there are essentially only 3 teams with a decent chance of winning the comp (some would argue 2, I suppose), and we came 3rd.
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| Wane, Mcdermott or Powell
Those should be the 3 considered when Mcnamara has gone.
Mcnamara has little respect from the players and how can he see which young players have stepped up if he's in Sydney?
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| Wane, Mcdermott or Powell
Those should be the 3 considered when Mcnamara has gone.
Mcnamara has little respect from the players and how can he see which young players have stepped up if he's in Sydney?
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| I'm a big fan of Wane and think he's done a fantastic job at Wigan. I'd be interested to see how he'd fare in a different environment though. At Wigan, he's overseen the careers of a large part of that team and it's plain the players hold him in extremely high regard. Would he be as successful with a bunch of players from other clubs who might need more convincing? In an ideal world he'd coach elsewhere for a couple of years - almost certainly this would have to be Australia - before taking up the national post. That's not to say he wouldn't be capable now; I just feel he'd be even more capable with broader experience.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I'm a big fan of Wane and think he's done a fantastic job at Wigan. I'd be interested to see how he'd fare in a different environment though. At Wigan, he's overseen the careers of a large part of that team and it's plain the players hold him in extremely high regard. Would he be as successful with a bunch of players from other clubs who might need more convincing? In an ideal world he'd coach elsewhere for a couple of years - almost certainly this would have to be Australia - before taking up the national post. That's not to say he wouldn't be capable now; I just feel he'd be even more capable with broader experience.'"
Whilst I certainly don't think its his only strength (far from it), it would be interesting to see how he would do away from Wigan - the NZ Warriors job, for instance. Only then will you know how bigger factor his [i100% Wigan[/i is to his coaching success.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Whilst I certainly don't think its his only strength (far from it), it would be interesting to see how he would do away from Wigan - the NZ Warriors job, for instance. Only then will you know how bigger factor his [i100% Wigan[/i is to his coaching success.'"
He also strikes me as an 100% English kind of bloke!
Would like to see someone like Peacock also involved in the coaching team.
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