Have we seen the last of 3,000+ attendances in the Championship now we've lost Widnes and not gained anybody in exchange ?

And yet a few years ago we had several 4/5 even up to 6,000 attendances at some games

So come on Nigel and Richard , what ' gimmick ' do we get next to make the Championships vibrant and worth winning ?

Rather then expect clubs that come down to bridge the gap in attendances why don't your OWN club go out an attract some decent crowds. Why should it be the RFL that have to have a vested interest in the complete in's and out's of your club. As a club it's massively in your own interest to market the product you are going to serve up. Don't blame the governing body for an issue that your own club can look into and make strides in.

According to league express the answer is going to be a comp at the end of may between four clubs from the champ and four clubs from the french league.

The thing is Easty , who do we have to play ? , I can see Fax's support taking a hit after yesterday , Barrows are already dropping and Fev are struggling to bring in more than 1,500 even though they are top of the league

At this moment we have 9 clubs in The Championship for next season , that's 8 home league games , that'll pay the bills

I agree Easty, it needs to be the clubs that drag the crowds in! On the flip side i would interested to see the attendances KR were getting week in week out when you were not in Super Duper League (not too long ago) compared to now??

www.hullkrfans.co.uk/teamstats/matchlist.php Home Average was 3401 in just the National League. Highest in the regular season was 4637 against Leigh and 6872 in the playoff's v Widnes.

www.hullkrfans.co.uk/teamstats/matchlist.php Home Average was 3401 in just the National League. Highest in the regular season was 4637 against Leigh and 6872 in the playoff's v Widnes.

Talk about I’m alright Jack!

Are the RFL the sole property of SL clubs?

Do you think the crowds would flock to HKR knowing there was no chance of playing at the highest level, for at least three years?

2004 ......Att 2110
2003....... Att 1577
2002.......Att 1454

Wow

That was a particularly good year though , we had us , you , Fax and Widnes all playing reasonably well with SL as the prize

Look back at the earlier ones , 2002 with Huddersfield just managing 2,000 at theirs

Not at all. I'm trying to make the point that it's not just simply down to the RFL to make a product work. The clubs themselves have to hold a certain amount of responsibility.

Forgive the RFL for wanting the better performing clubs in the top league.

There are way too many people in the lower leagues that expect someone to do something for them instead of doing it themselves. Even this thread is about a different club pulling up the attendance average, and now the big bad RFL have taken them away to the top.

Exactly.

Easty was your home attendance in 2005 solely made up up of KR fans?

Of course they do, but in the Ivory Towers of SL, people can’t appreciate how much of a struggle it is in the Championship, especially now the Drawbridge is pulled for another 3 years, with the faint hope of aspiring to SL after that.

Even then it’s down to the Red Hall dreamers who have just nearly admitted a club that wasn’t fit for purpose, but ploughed on until they got the Dear John letter on Monday.

Try running a SL club on 8 home league games a season ?

Quite true , but it is the RFL responsibility to put an attractive structure in place , so far we have had Toulouse , excempt from relegation , and the NR 9 s , what next ?

Chuckles.....................
Lower League fans should tug their forelocks to Superior League fans because they know best..........Chuckles.

Have a look on the Crusaders board at some of their opinions why they don't think they are viable as a Championship club , it makes interesting reading , basically if it isn't SL , it's not worth watching , so it isn't just us is it ?

At the end of the day you can't hold the championship clubs completely responsible as they aren't in complete control of their destiny. Telling them to "stop whinging" doesn't change the fact that they're relying on the people who run the game to make the right decisions. It's the rfl's league they play in, their format, their teams, they have a right to answers and a positive game plan. If they're not getting it, they're entitled to ask why.

If they had the final say in such matters then people may have a point but they don't.

It goes back to what I said years ago, the competition is vibrant, growing, strong, worth winning in it's own right, until your team is threatened with relegation to it.

Do you really think you'll only have 8 home games next year? Or are you just trying to make the task seem harder?

Where have I said anything like that?

That's all fair enough, but it gets to a point where people are just looking for an excuse for their club's failings and the easiest one is the RFL. Nearly everything is their fault if you believe the things some people say on here.

This very thread is about a club with big crowds being taken away and what the RFL are going to do. Err... what's stopping Leigh building up their own crowds like Widnes have? It's certainly not a ground or success on the pitch issue! Are the RFL doing something for Widnes that they aren't for the rest?!

Well we had 10 this year and 9 the year before , we've lost 2 clubs from the Championships with no obvious replacements at the moment

Except Widnes haven't ' built up ' the fan base in the Championship/NL , have they , their attendances have been slowly dwindling

It just seems to me that the lower tiers are quite simply an afterthought , something only considered once all the serious stuff is out of the way

6 weeks to the play offs and clubs don't know what they are playing for , try getting fans excited on that