King of the winger kickers, Richards for mine.

Botica easily.

Richards is a better overall player. His kicking may not be quite as accurate, but it is far more powerful, his dropouts are the best in Super League IMO.

I thought you were talking kicking. If you're not then Matt Rogers.

I didn't make myself clear, thats ok. Throw El Masri into the hat.
But Wigan/ english winger, kicker,point scorer people.

English league, many apologies. Had a dram or two.

Fundamentally flawed from the start, Frano Botica played most of his Wigan games at stand-off, the era in which Mr s Edwards took over the scrum-half berth.


Pedantic hat off.......... Botica was the better kicker, first time the dead-ball was regularly kicked pointing towards the posts which i think most players do now.

As i said ive had an ale


Wigan, english, australian goal kicking, point scoring sensations

Good man

i think botica is the best kicker ive seen in 26 years of watching both codes personally

because mal meninga didnt kick that way eh

Richards has much more power but Botica was hardly ever missed from under 40 yards. "It's like shelling peas for this lad..." as Frenchie once said

Paul Anderson has a better career % than either of these two wasters.

On goalkicking alone Botica but as has been stated he played many of his games at 6.

Stats prove nowt.

Botica by plenty on the kicking front.

Richards has good distance but his accuracy is way off this year. He missed some shocker for Ireland in the world cup and has carried it on with us this year.

Can't believe that question is even being asked. Richards kicking has been really poor this season from his previous standards. Down from about 83% to 68%. Definetly cost us a top 4 finish. Would still back him in pressure situations though. That comeback at Bradford in 07 was nothing without him kicking them all off the touchline.

His attacking strike rate can't be faulted though. 20 in 25 this season now.

Botica easily.

Richards not in the top 5 for mine!

Not in the top 5 of what?? The OP asked Botica V Richrds




Anyway much as I love our Paaaaat, Botica's kicking was a joy to behold, I don't think I had to close my eyes once

Same with Neil Cowie..

Mal Meninga 'punted' the ball American football style straight on, Botica led the move to a normal 'round the corner' kick.........

Richards shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Botica.

El Masri is the only player to hold a torch to Botica, Darryl Halligan was a superb kicker as well.

Did Barry Eaton ever play on the left wing for Wigan?

I know he did'nt but if somebody is going to throw El Mazri into the conversation then the world record holder for the most consecutive conversions by a professional rugby player has to be added as well.

Mark Hewitt was the best kicker I've ever seen, and I've seen all of the above. But because he wasn't a glamour player who won trophies he'll never get the recognition he deserves for his kicking, he was superb.

El Mazri. As for best drop-outs in SL, he may not be of any use for anything else, but Paul Sykes never usually fails to get it out of his own half and usually well into theirs.