IMO they have a excellent chance of making it after giving it to Hull .



1 point or not a win is a win. So Congrats.


What's there secret this year ? in recent years they were struggling, not anymore It seems . Oh that's right, they probably signed some Manly players no wonder why they're going so well.

top 4... not a chance in hell, were still too inconsistant with our disipline and still are making stupid mistakes in defence... BUT this season unlike last season Sherwin, Chase etc are playing behind behind a pack who aren't being beaten and are given the oppertunity to play an expansive flowing game which are catching teams out, plus we are twice as fast as we have been in a long long time, it's looking good being a Tiger this season, at the beginning i'd have been happy with a top 10 finish, after watching some of the Rugby we have played i'd be happy and expect us to finish top 8.

Chance? Probably about 4 in 14. Can't see it although things are exciting this year.

Secret? A good mix of quality youngsters coming through, decent buys from elsewhere in the league and some good uns from abroad. Personally I put almost everything down to Mitchell Sargant, who has been awesome.

Mitchell Sargant was out on his feet the last 20 minutes yesterday he was bolloxed, but even that didn't stop him, he made at least 5 tackles i can think of that were quite simply unbelievable, one of our best signings.

Not sure about them finishing that high over a long campaign but they look prime candidates for a cup run and with a bit of luck a day out at Wembley.

I love the way people have simply seen the scoreline and simply presumed it was a top4 game. Both sides made many errors and a better side would have capitalised very early on.

Cas are a good side who are very fast, but based on seeing them last night and on tv last week I think talk of top4 is very premature, they could end up as high as 6th though IMO

We've less chance than Leeds & Saints, about the same chance as Catalans & Hudds and more chance than Celtic & Wire IMO of course.

Top 8 will do me, let's walk before we can run.

What an odd post.

In answer to such a daft question - it's possible but not based on beating Hull away or form up to date. SL has levelled out a lot and with P&R removed teams can express themselves more.

The key for Cas will be injuries, remain injury free then they will be in with a shout, pick up injuries or lose form then no. However this applies to every team in SL bar Celtic and Salford, why single out any one team - utterly bizzare.

at the start of the season i would have settled for one place better than last season. we are going well, but it is early days yet. we have improved considerably on last season so i am happy already, anything else will be a bonus

and i hope a good cup run and a day out at wembley is on the cards, i have always said i wont go to wembley until cas get there

You've a similar chance as Wakefield and Hudds bit better than Catalan and Quins.

We'll see.

You have faith your team wont totally capitulate in the 2nd half of this season like last year?

Is that better than capitulating in 2004, 2006, 2008, bottom every year, and remember Cardiff hows that for a team that knows how to capitulate - you have to laugh at the blinkers. Get a grip man you have won a few games and the old Cas arrogance and dellusions of grandure returns. There is nothing special at Cas and to be honest I was trying to be nice when comparing you to us and Hudds, I don't actually think you are quite as strong to be honest - one man team in Sherwin. Five games in and you're believing you're own bullsh*t.

Still we'll see, and as we have been seeing since 2004 there will only be one winner, as last year 3-1 wasn't it - short memories you lot.

It's more to do with them being on equal footing this tine round. They were not promoted until mid October, when most players had already signed up for the following season. They were granted a franchise on the same day as the other teams and have had the same chance to build a squad.

No doubt salford and celtic will struggle initially, but given time like Catalan and Castleford they will also be able to compete.

At last i think the salary cap is begining to work, it is nice to see teams outside the tradional "big four" challenging for honours.

You have a short memory, Catalan finished below Cas, and it could quite easily have been us in 2006.

Why do you always try and belittle other peoples opinions if they don't agree with yours?

Because it's a forum and it's fan rivalry - are you for real. Me and Vegas go back a long way and we won't give an inch. I'd be alarmed if we did. We may love each other away from RL but when it comes to our teams no quarter given or asked for.

If that's ok with you oh sensitive one

Why are you being so defensive about a straight forward question?



Not quite, do your homework.



Yes, remember 10th August?

We can all live in the past.



I'm failing to see a relevance between me asking you a question and your reference to blinkers





I bet you went a shade of purple when you saw this thread, didn't you?

Just a small point but quite a significant one, it wasn't started by a Cas fan.



Well hopefully you'll get over your Cas obsession very soon, ooh quick better start a thread, Dale Ferguson can eat 3 shredded wheat compared to Westerman who can only manage 2





You said we have less chance than Wakey & Hudds and then changed it to a similar chance by the time I replied.

Do you actually have an opinion that you believe in because you've gone from Cas have less chance, to equal chance and now you claim you only said we have equal chance to be nice... is it any wonder you have about as much credibility as am mouldy turd?



Make your mind up







I personally think we're stronger than Wakefield and I duly expect us to give you a good hammering next month and show that not only are we the biggest club in the Wakefield district in terms of fan base but we're also once again the best team on the pitch*



Some of us have been watching RL a lot longer. Would you like me to post the win/loss record from 1980 to present between the 2 clubs?

As you were.

* To decent and fair Wakey fans that was my attempt at Vastman style arrogance and not my true opinion.

Top 8 we only need 7 more wins which is 1 in 3 games so to make the 8 is a realistc taget any more than that is a bunus.
Challange cup run could be on the cards with so many SL clubs drawing each other we must have chance having a run.

We know not all wakey fans are like vastman, and thats why we have respect for them.

Yes, we are all not self-opinionated like him thank God.

I think that we have a chance, but then the league is so competetive now that there are others like Saints, Leeds, Hull FC, Hull KR, Wakey, Wigan, Huddersfield, Quins etc. all have a good chance of the top 4 as well.

Celtic and Salford are simply not competetive enough this year and I don't feel that Warrington or Bradford are good enough either. Catalans also don't really look to be on the pace yet, but I wouldn't rule them out.

If I was to pick a top 8 so far (from what i've seen at this early stage) then it would be (in no particular order) :-

Leeds
Saints
Quins
Cas
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Wakey

We are improving every week and I love the fast flowing style that we are developing. We have some very quick and skillful players to fit that style and i'm sure that we will cut out more of the errors and become slicker, the more we play like that. I also feel that our forward pack is one of the best in the league, which is allowing the likes of Sherwin & Chase, as well as the likes of Goldie, Owen, Shenton & Dixon to work well in attack.

What we mustn't forget is that we are still rebuilding from our recent spells in the National Leagues and this season is the first season where we have been able to recruit properly. We brought around 9 or 10 players in this year and for the first time in ages we have competition for places.

When you bring that amount of new players in it takes time to gell though and personally I feel that we have adapted very quickly indeed.

I do feel we have a good chance of being one of the best sides in this league come the playoffs and i'm just looking forward to every game at the moment as I feel that there's nobody in this league who we can not beat.

On what evidence have you seen so far to say that Cas will finish 4 places above Wakey?

Considering that Wakey are matching Cas for performances. Also consider that Wakey have had one the most horrendous injury list's in SL history.

Do you really think if you took, Sherwin, Chase, Hudson, Sargent, Huby, Shenton and Owen out of your team you would be performing as well as Wakey? Because that would be the equivalent to our performances considering everything.

You're so obviously biased with you opinions aren't you ? Cas have played well in there last 6 games bar 1 (against Hudds). It isn't 2004 or 2006 now we are a good side as we have proved. Talking of short memories i remember when all the Cas fans were cheering when the score came up on the big screen after we beat Salford for you to keep you up.

I'm not getting carried away but even if we beat Leeds,Saints and Hull 3 weeks on the trot we would still get no praise from you.

Top four very unlikely but not impossible - which is an improvement on what I'd have thought before the season started.

I'd be more than happy with a play off berth but much will depend on whether we stay lucky on the injuries front, especially to Sherwin!

Sometimes you can have too many of the same type of player on the pitch, you obviously haven't learned that from last year.

I would just like to publicly thank Vastman for the abusive pm he has just sent me.

It must make him feel really big having to stoop to such ridiculous and infantile actions.