It will happen anyway, it always has, if you think it doesn't happen to the lower SL teams you are foolish. You can't stop cream rising to the top.

I'll repeat, 90% of a Championship winning side will need to be replaced anyway, they just won't be good enough.

Like Huddersfield and Cas have.

If you think Huddersfield could be challenging like they are under P&R you are a bigger fool than I though.

Take away Kens millions and they are a Championship club , simple as , ditto Quins , ditto Salford , Cas and Wakey scuff along robbing peter to pay paul , HKR have just borrowed to the hilt , but can see the end of the tunnel , they might get there eventually

FFS, read my post again and you will see that I put that we are trying to build a [iclub[/i, not just a team.

Total and Utter garbage !!!!

On a £300k salary cap the most you can become is a feeder club to SL, You get the youth and develop it into the first team and then can't afford to pay them what they are worth simply due to the Salary Cap restriction of £300k, so they go to SL. Great example is Kyle Briggs, Wanted to stay with Fev but a rugby players career is only so long, you must take the opportunity to make what you can when you can. It isn't getting any better and as long as Championship rugby is treated like a second rate league it isn't going to.

I hope someone does come down into the championship, they can then see what its like STUCK !! They can do everything that the RFL asks of them still to be told NO!!!, 3 more years of being in their becuase their becuase the other clubs in SL dont want to share the sky money. reep what they have sown for a bit.

You forgot Warrington, if Moran pulled out. Or to put it another way, most SL clubs can't manage just on their income from the game.

WTF. You are seriously trying to argue that a lower league player being signed by a club in the top league is an argument against licensing? Are you stupid?

I like his example of a lower league player being signed to a top league club being Kyle Briggs, Leeds Rhinos academy product.

No club in the championship is close to doing what the RFL ask of them. Not even Widnes.

No club in the Championship will ever come close to doing what the RFL ask of them. Neither would most Super League clubs if they were consigned to 3 years in the Championship.

Thats probably true.

But whilst our standards are so low and clubs are still somehow managing to limbo under it, i lack a little sympathy for those who arent at the top table.

Yes we've noticed

In terms of the period of licensing, there could be a point. As an example, Saints and Hull are reportedly sniffing around Chris Hill and Jamie Ellis respectively. If they wish to remain with Leigh, they need to wait a minimum two years before being able to play in Super League, even if we remain undefeated for the rest of this season and do likewise for the next two. How can we have a hope of keeping those players while waiting for the nod when previously they'd have only had to wait until the end of the season to see if they can remain with their existing club and move up to Super League, or move elsewhere if we didn't win the Grand Final?

said would not happen

So we were right all along , unsurprisingly

As I have pointed out several times, 'building a club' does not equate to building a Super League standard squad whilst in the Championship, which would be impossible under any system. Are you incapable of understanding this?

So bigger and more successful clubs with more money are signing the best players from smaller clubs in lower divisions. Welcome to the world of sport.

So once again we all understand , Licencing is there simply and purely to protect 3/4 SL clubs that could not operate outside SL , it is of no benifit whatsoever to clubs outside SL

Maybe if the RFL had stated that at the start we'd all know were we stand a lot better and could concentrate on our futures , or not , instead of trying to jump through ever decreassing hoops hanging from ever rising strings

So why wasn't he in the Leeds squad ?

Is this directed at something I have said, or is it just some sort of random outburst?

Fully capable , and long before you even started posting on here we were pointing that fact out , but the RFL , you know those people up at Red Hall suggested that we couldn't do that because of P and R , and that we would be able to do that with franchising , so were they lying ? , or did they just not understand how sport works ? , take your pick

We know exactly what you mean , we agree with you , but there were fans on here telling us that we would be able to do that , because the RFL said so

I'm pretty sure that neither the RFL nor anyone else has ever suggested that anybody will be able to build a Super League standard squad in the Championship. Anyone who has interpreted the licensing system in that way is obviously a complete idiot.

Did I quote you ?

No , so it was am observation made after several posters on here telling us that you can only build a squad of players for SL , when you get into SL , so how can franchising be of any benifit to any club outside SL , it just cannot , it is the soley to protect a few clubs in SL , nothing else

Yet again you are unable to make the distinction between 'building a club' and building a team. It would be virtually impossible for any club in any sport to build a squad of top-flight players outside of the top flight under any circumstances.

No, but to build a fanbase, and in turn attractiveness to sponsors etc... does require a stable, quality squad that could consistently challenge for honours at the level they are at.

Agreed, and this is something that licensing promotes.