It has got to go.

Stupid system which is damaging our game. It stinks and makes our game look foolish and pointless,

A Leigh fan that doesn't like the licensing system? Who would have guessed

probably just decided it was worth starting a thread of its own rather than taking over every other one on VT.

It has got to STAY

The BEST system we can have which is Saving our game. It could be tweaked and makes our game and teams more STABLE and PROFESSIONAL.

It's ruining the championship competition, seriously why do people bother going to the games! Then again this year our games have been more entertaining than alot of SL games i have seen

Seriously?
Yet another bullsh[ii[/it thread saying a system that's only been in place for 2 seasons should go.
FFS stop b[ii[/itching and moaning and grow your club in a professional manner for a change.
It's pathetic.

I dont usually post on threads like this, it's hard for my club (leigh) to attract fans when theres no P&R. I must say this year has been my most enjoyable one!
We are building a team with a decent amount of leythers in it, but how long before SL teams hand pick players from us.

i suppose the League and NRC for the next 3 years will do for me

maybe a challenge cup

A bit like your one and only season in SL.

I could be that you played a standard of rugby that landed you in a relegation spot...

I think franchising is a fine idea. Works okay for the mega rich American sports.

However the RFL need to outsource the decision making and forward planning. The success of franchises so far is wildly different, from Catalans at one end, to the unbelievable failures of Quins and Crusaders.

Get some real business men involved and get proper investment, marketing, business planning in place. The current system of promising a promotion to one of the pathetic Championship clubs, none of which deserve to be in Super League, is pathetic. There should be a system where if you can prove you have a quality organisation you can get in within a realistic timescale, but also if you fail to live up to expectations, current and traditional SL sides included, you can be removed as well.

and now we have moved forward from 2005, the standard of RL we are playing is much more entertaining. At the moment we are not ready but when we get our chance we will give SL a good crack. We'll certainly have more fans than Quinns

One little thing though why do people post 'franchising must go but then also say we are not ready yet.' Isnt that the point?

I am not a massive fan of it HOWEVER it could work if implemented properly and most important CLEARLY I have said this from day one too before anyone starts. When used to strengthen our sport it's fine. When used purely for expansion purposes it makes the game and structure weak.

I am not going to get involved in this other than to ask you the question , these ' real ' businessmen ? , what qualifications , experience do you suggest they should have , and how are you going to entice then to contribute ?

It's a great system.

Gives teams a chance to build something in SL rather than having to sign lots of aussies to try and stay up in their first season.

And if after three seasons you've not built then give some one else a go.

Not last season it wasn't...

Noticed on a much smaller scale that Welsh Football league has opted for a part franchising system which saw Rhyl who finished 6th last season dumped out of the league.

I wouldnt be surprised to see English Rugby Union to take it on in the next few years as well.

Gangsters. It's a great money laundering opportunity.

Or they could have a series of the Apprentice for a SL franchise. I'm sure Sugar would go with it. The winner gets to run the club.

Or anyone who isn't useless might be a start? Get some of those involved in Union on board, their sport markets and sells itself brilliantly.

It has to stay.

Sensible system which is strengthening our game. It's great and makes our game look professional.

last season we had a good year, from the bottom end of the table to the top end.....

Franchising is great for getting your house in order and ensuring your stadiums are upto scratch, however what the OP means is that the championship sides are losing crowds and losing them fast. Without promotion fans are simply losing interest full stop.My team are currently doing very well in the championship and might even clear up, they might clear up for 3 years only for somebody to say no sorry not this time. The fans will give up hope.

How long will championship supporters spend their hard earned cash on something that is going nowhere? you cannot dangle the superleague carrot forever!!

In effect they do, as most of the teams in the championship don't have grounds adequate for the premiership! Leeds nearly escaped relegation due to this ...

It's the next step definitely.

That's no excuse, Hull FC's crowd's are pretty good....

[url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/05/13/millward-impressed-with-leigh-crowds/Basil - and the figures - disagree[/url

Eh? The last time you went up you had decent crowds until you got walloped every week and the fans stayed away in droves.

Yes Leighs crowds are increasing because we are playing an excellent brand of rugby, what i am saying is that we can do this for 3 years building and building peoples hopes up to have somebody shut the door in our faces.

How long will the fans put up with rejection without calling it a day?

You lose fans, you lose income, the club can no longer bring in players with good prospects and coaches alike.The club dies a death simple.