Where are all Bradfords "bullmania" fans? Well they are there and happy to support a decent team. In fact there are more Bradford fans now, than there are Halifax supporters. There are even more fans attending at Bradford now than attended fax in SL.

Those fans are still there, have proven they are still there and proven they would come back if only the club were given the time and space to grow again.

I would professional opinion carries the most weight here. Not that it will matter because Bradford won't finish within 6 of us! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... l/?ref=rss Quote "While the Bulls and their fans might be hopeful that the penalty will be overturned, the reality is that courts are generally extremely reluctant to interfere in the decision-making of sports governing bodies. "Generally, as long as a sport's regulator acts in accordance with its own rules and regulations, then a court is unlikely to interfere, usually taking the view that the specialist body is in a much stronger position to make an appropriate decision based on its expert knowledge of the sport. "A court might, in extreme circumstances, rule that a penalty imposed is excessive or disproportionate. "But in previous cases there has always been a wide discretion afforded to the sports governing body in making that decision.'"

I would professional opinion carries the most weight here. Not that it will matter because Bradford won't finish within 6 of us! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... l/?ref=rss Quote "While the Bulls and their fans might be hopeful that the penalty will be overturned, the reality is that courts are generally extremely reluctant to interfere in the decision-making of sports governing bodies. "Generally, as long as a sport's regulator acts in accordance with its own rules and regulations, then a court is unlikely to interfere, usually taking the view that the specialist body is in a much stronger position to make an appropriate decision based on its expert knowledge of the sport. "A court might, in extreme circumstances, rule that a penalty imposed is excessive or disproportionate. "But in previous cases there has always been a wide discretion afforded to the sports governing body in making that decision.'"

I was at thrum hall in the 80's when your and mine clubs were two of the best in the world, I was also there in the 90's when were playing in front of 500 people. Hardly a blow in! Had lots of fun with fans at barrow, fax, feath etc during our time in div 2&3 but wouldn't want to be back there.

Well it is arguable if it is a good idea to kick out a club who have the evidenced potential to deliver major pluses for your business, especially when there is no one to replace them who could offer more. South Sydney are a great example, terrible run club, kicked out, managed to argue there way back in, now the second biggest club in the NRL.

Of course it's previous owners of the bulls poor management that has got them in this situation but I simply don't understand punishing a club that is on its knees financially by financially hitting them harder. No business in the world would do something that stupid.

The Bulls are not being ' kicked out ' ,they are playing within the rules of the sport just like everybody else

They are being punished because they took actions that attempted to gain an advantage against their fellow clubs, nothing unfair about that ,their actions also brought the sport into disrepute

They are not the ' Victim ' in all this, everybody else they competed with or dealt financially are

The sport overall will be better that they take their points deduction and deal with whatever consequences that brings , their refusal to do that in a honorable way further damages the image of the sport

It really is that simple

Its never stopped you before, spread enough talking bollox and you can confuse any argument, you're slipping

Spot on.

Every other club that has cheated in this way resulting in going bust has accepted the rules and the consequent points deduction, resulting in relegation at the end of the ensuing season for many.

I worry that the Bulls' new owner isn't of an RL background and more importantly isn't willing to accept the spirit of the competition.

It's suggested his own money is funding his appeals. But what if it's his cash going via the Bulls club as a loan and he then gets his money back out of the Bulls' parachute payment for 2015? A third Administation in 3 years?

That is my worry. Some would say a court hearing started this decline, a drop to the next division is not the end at all. But a 3rd administration through another court case could do the job.

If that made sense as a sentence it could almost have been confused for wit.

How do you know either of those statements are true?

Straw man argument.

I did not say they were true, more that it was my worry.

But we could micro inspect all words and lines on here.

Well a 2 line post would normally get a 4 quote response, he's slipping

Ok, a better way of phrasing that question would be, Why do you think either of those statements are true? There doesnt seem to be any logic behind them, just convenience really.

Keep trying, you might fall assbackward into wit or sense eventually. A stopped clock and all that.

A quite pathetic response, even for you.

Well, it was in response to a pathetic comment

Who are you? Smokey's bitch?

No. I think going by his responses to you we all know who's Smokey's bitch

No one wins from this.

Bradford are fast alienating everyone else within the game, they need friends now more than ever but this action will only be negative for the game and ultimatly for bradford.

They will go down regardless of whether they get the points back. People squark about the RFL on here but you don't want to get into a street fight with them when you are as busted up as bradford, all they are doing now is making themselves a powerful enemy when they themselves are in a very weak position.

Bradford are finished. Stick in a fork in them, they're done.

My feelings about the situation before were impassive, but now they've turned.

Just go away and die, Bradford.

Because above anything else, it's YOUR FEELINGS that we all care about!



No, really, the state of "FlexWheeler"'s feelings, that's top of our thinking. Now that you have told us your feelings "have turned", we are all distraught. We are so bothered about this, well, I can't tell you.

Just go away and die, FlexWheeler

Nice. Im a human being, not an abstract entity!

Yes uncalled for, as was your previous one about the ' abstract entity '

The famous RL ' family '

Lets hope Mr Greens ' for the good of the game ' High Court appeal actually does the game some good? ,because up to now I'd say its doing the opposite

That's absolutely pathetic you are a complete prick

Can see where you get your big bully name from.

Classy.

Not.

Well, fsck me, there was me thinking that you had created an abstract entity that you call "FlexWheeler" to play up the boards, and all along it's your real name not an abstract internet persona! What will they think of next.