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| Drop Heighington. Dropped off several tackles last week, plus was slow getting back into the line. Just looked lazy.
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| Heighington for me. It's not even a hard decision.
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| Heighington has a decent workrate but then again so does Ellis
I would bring Ellis in the team ahead of Heighington and leave the rest intact. Doesnāt really matter if its Ellis or Wilkin at 13 as we see Tomkins and Roby packing down at loose so we need three mobile back rowers with a reasonable work rate. Its Wilkin or Heighington as the choice for me and I would opt for Wilkin
I like the idea of Morley, Carvell and JJB on the bench as they all add some momentum when they come on
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His stats are better than Heighinton's. I'd play them all and drop Widdop. No point having him on the bench as he's only there to cover injuries and Ellis and Wilkin can do that just as well.
Ideally we should have started the series with Widdop at 6 and Sinfield at 13 instead of Heighinton, but we didn't and can't change it now.
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His stats are better than Heighinton's. I'd play them all and drop Widdop. No point having him on the bench as he's only there to cover injuries and Ellis and Wilkin can do that just as well.
Ideally we should have started the series with Widdop at 6 and Sinfield at 13 instead of Heighinton, but we didn't and can't change it now.
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| But Heighington plays in the NRL. He must therefore be some kind of super human rugby demigod.
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| Id drop JJB. Not by much; him and Wilkin have both impressed me this series more than I expected but I just feel Wilkin and Heighington give you a little more. Just personal though, its a close one
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| Drop wilkin..He doesnt offer anything,and very lightweight.his stats were poor last game too.
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| Either Heighington or Wilkin for Ellis, preferably Wilkin (or both)
I'd also drop Yeaman
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"Drop wilkin..He doesnt offer anything,and very lightweight.his stats were poor last game too.'"
Wilkin doesn't offer anything? Show me another second rower (bar Ellis) who would have the presence of mind to get the quick pass out to Yeaman to create Briscoe's try last Saturday?
Ellis, Westwood, Wilkin is a great back row. The perfect mix of power, work and flair, nicely complemented by Sinfield in the halves too.
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| Quote ="Hopie"I'd also drop Yeaman.'"
Who for, exactly?
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| Quote ="Wheels"Wilkin doesn't offer anything? Show me another second rower (bar Ellis) who would have the presence of mind to get the quick pass out to Yeaman to create Briscoe's try last Saturday?
Ellis, Westwood, Wilkin is a great back row. The perfect mix of power, work and flair, nicely complemented by Sinfield in the halves too.'"
FFS there was nothing special about wilkins pass it wasnt exactly a Gene Miles type basketball pass was it.Come on.wow give him a test spot cos he passed the ball when he should of done.He loses collision all tackles.Never breaks the line and makes hardly any yards.,and he also seems to kick the ball downfield straight down the fullbacks throat...
Dont get me going about sinfield either.Bad organising in the 1st half last week and also made some bad basic handling errors.Hes too slow for number 6 too.
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| drop heighington
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| Quote ="Wheels"Who for, exactly?'"
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"FFS there was nothing special about wilkins pass it wasnt exactly a Gene Miles type basketball pass was it.'"
No, but it was a very good pass that created a try scoring chance, just like his pass to Tomkins at Wembley for one of Hall's tries.
Quote ="Dantes Inferno"Never breaks the line and makes hardly any yards'"
3 offloads and 2 tackle busts at the weekend compared to Heighington's 2 offloads and 0 tackle busts.
Quote ="Dantes Inferno"and he also seems to kick the ball downfield straight down the fullbacks throat...'"
True, he offers an emergency kicking option that Heighington doesn't.
Quote ="Dantes Inferno"Dont get me going about sinfield either.Bad organising in the 1st half last week and also made some bad basic handling errors.Hes too slow for number 6 too.'"
Ahhhh, you should have posted this first then I wouldn't have bothered replying. Or just start your posts with "I know very little about RL, but . . . . "
Rarely has a GB/England team looked as well organised as this one with Sinfield in the halves, and that's despite playing with a headless chicken (albeit a very good one) at 7.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"No, but it was a very good pass that created a try scoring chance, just like his pass to Tomkins at Wembley for one of Hall's tries.
3 offloads and 2 tackle busts at the weekend compared to Heighington's 2 offloads and 0 tackle busts.
True, he offers an emergency kicking option that Heighington doesn't.
Ahhhh, you should have posted this first then I wouldn't have bothered replying. Or just start your posts with "I know very little about RL, but . . . . "
Rarely has a GB/England team looked as well organised as this one with Sinfield in the halves, and that's despite playing with a headless chicken (albeit a very good one) at 7.'"
Typical scouser talking bull5hit.
If sinfield was organising properly wilkin wouldnt/shouldnt be kicking the ball down field in any situation....
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"Typical scouser talking bull5hit.
If sinfield was organising properly wilkin wouldnt/shouldnt be kicking the ball down field in any situation....'"
I'm glad you aren't picking the team, thats all I'll say.
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| Quote ="Wheels"I'm glad you aren't picking the team, thats all I'll say.'"
you and fearthevee are just biased towards your own players in the england jersey.take your rose tinted specs off the pair of you.....
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"you and fearthevee are just biased towards your own players in the england jersey.take your rose tinted specs off the pair of you.....
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IIRC, Wheels is a York fan. Remind me, which York players are currently in the squad?
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"you and fearthevee are just biased towards your own players in the england jersey.take your rose tinted specs off the pair of you.....
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The last time I checked, there weren't actually any York players in this years England squad.
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| He just isnt going to make any unforced changes to the team that started against Wales,Heighington as done very little imo and should be dropped,put him on the bench.Sinfield wont be left out simply for his goalkicking alone,a stand off in my eyes should have pace to burn,an eye for a gap and a good pair of hands,Sam for me he`d frighten them to death,aint going to happen i know,saying that this is the best team from these islands i`ve seen for many a good year.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'd play them all and drop Widdop. No point having him on the bench as he's only there to cover injuries and Ellis and Wilkin can do that just as well.
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No they can't.
It's a good idea having a bench player who can effectively cover 1-7 without disrupting the rest of the team. In high-intensity Test rugby injuries are more than possibilities. Look at the mess NZ got into when Locke went off and they had Beale at FB, Brown on the wing and Glenn at centre. When Slater got crocked Australia had Luke Lewis wasting on the wing. The last thing we want is Ellis moving to centre and Hall to fullback or whatever after 20 minutes.
Anyway: Heighington to make way.
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| Quote ="Panda92"IIRC, Wheels is a York fan. Remind me, which York players are currently in the squad?'"
Ha Ha excuse me fro my ignorance.I thought wheels was a loiner due to him living in scumland.
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"Ha Ha excuse me fro my ignorance.I thought wheels was a loiner due to him living in scumland.'"
I'm not quite sure how that relates to my support for picking Jon Wilkin, but consider your apology accepted.
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