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| I'm heartbroken at how my club Swinton manipulated the dual reg system to field in essence 9 Warrington players in the team that faced Workington yesterday.It had made a mockery of the integrity of the championship competition and I won't be attending another game while this ridiculous system is in place.
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| Quote ="duffymoon":1vkslmd7I'm heartbroken at how my club Swinton manipulated the dual reg system to field in essence 9 Warrington players in the team that faced Workington yesterday.It had made a mockery of the integrity of the championship competition and I won't be attending another game while this ridiculous system is in place.'" voting to drop their ' reserve ' grade competition
2 nd , the RFL creating the ' league of death ' or Championship 1 as it is better known
I actually think Warrington are making a point with this , unfortunatly I can see several others following suit , and I do have considerable sympathy for Swinton and John Kidd , he is desperatly trying to keep a sports club alive living as ' nomads ' until he can return it to its true home , an incredibly difficult thing to do for just a few years , let alone as long as it has now taken
So , continue to follow your club , you are needed , and dont be so hard on them , they have little choice but to take advantage of every opportunity to survive , we dont need anymore Bramleys or Blackpools
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| Quote ="Starbug"No rules have been broken duffymoon , in fact Swinton could have done exactly this last season , there are 2 issues that have brought us to this
1 st , the SL clubs [ not Warrington apparently voting to drop their ' reserve ' grade competition
2 nd , the RFL creating the ' league of death ' or Championship 1 as it is better known
I actually think Warrington are making a point with this , unfortunatly I can see several others following suit , and I do have considerable sympathy for Swinton and John Kidd , he is desperatly trying to keep a sports club alive living as ' nomads ' until he can return it to its true home , an incredibly difficult thing to do for just a few years , let alone as long as it has now taken
[size=150So , continue to follow your club , you are needed [/size, and dont be so hard on them , they have little choice but to take advantage of every opportunity to survive , we dont need anymore Bramleys or Blackpools'"
When was the last time you watched Leyth?
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"When was the last time you watched Leyth?'"
Keighley away last season
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| Quote ="Starbug"No rules have been broken duffymoon , in fact Swinton could have done exactly this last season , there are 2 issues that have brought us to this
1 st , the SL clubs [ not Warrington apparently voting to drop their ' reserve ' grade competition
2 nd , the RFL creating the ' league of death ' or Championship 1 as it is better known
I actually think Warrington are making a point with this , unfortunatly I can see several others following suit , and I do have considerable sympathy for Swinton and John Kidd , he is desperatly trying to keep a sports club alive living as ' nomads ' until he can return it to its true home , an incredibly difficult thing to do for just a few years , let alone as long as it has now taken
[uSo , continue to follow your club , you are needed [/u, and dont be so hard on them , they have little choice but to take advantage of every opportunity to survive , we dont need anymore Bramleys or Blackpools'"
Or don't bother following them anymore as they're not your club now,they belong to warrington and the rl.Let them finance it.
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| Insightful starbug for the game in general. Don't the clubs have a say in how it's run or am I living in a dream world
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| Quote ="The_Wolfman"Insightful starbug
=#BF0000for the game in general. Don't the clubs have a say in how it's run or am I living in a dream world'"
What if it works for one part of the game , but damages another ?
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| Winners and losers depends totally on which side of the argument you sit. At the moment we don't know what affect this will have. Thinking objectively, I have a strong aversion to anyone not born in England playing for us. I don't care if Aus and NZ utilise the rules to try and win, but for me when farsavaloo and chase played, it stopped being England and lost the appeal for me. I'm sure they'll be some Swinton fans who feel the same about their team now
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| Jamie Jones Buchanan was talking about this on Radio Leeds yesterday. His view was that it is a bad answer to a problem: The senior academy has been dropped to save money, and the League still hasn't got a sponsor.
I noticed over the weekend that the Elonex electronic adverts have gone, as has their sponsorship of the officials.
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| Quote ="The_Wolfman"=#FF0000Winners and losers depends totally on which side of the argument you sit. At the moment we don't know what affect this will have. Thinking objectively, I have a strong aversion to anyone not born in England playing for us. I don't care if Aus and NZ utilise the rules to try and win, but for me when farsavaloo and chase played, it stopped being England and lost the appeal for me. =#FF0000I'm sure they'll be some Swinton fans who feel the same about their team now'"
So which side are you sitting on ?
It isn't just Swinton and their fans , 1stly , because they wont be the only club to do this , most of the rest will now follow , and 2ndly , it affects the credibility of the whole competition and all the clubs in it
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| Quote ="The_Wolfman"What about the fact that championship teams get players for nothing and can then invest any saved money in advertising, youth development and improving the stadia??? Or with they not invest it wisely
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They don't have money to invest. Most are spending as much as (probably more than) they can actually afford already. How exactly do DRs save them this vast quantity of money, apart from a few win bonuses, to be investing?
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| Quote ="Starbug"No rules have been broken duffymoon , in fact Swinton could have done exactly this last season , there are 2 issues that have brought us to this
1 st , the SL clubs [ not Warrington apparently voting to drop their ' reserve ' grade competition
2 nd , the RFL creating the ' league of death ' or Championship 1 as it is better known
I actually think Warrington are making a point with this , unfortunatly I can see several others following suit , and I do have considerable sympathy for Swinton and John Kidd , he is desperatly trying to keep a sports club alive living as ' nomads ' until he can return it to its true home , an incredibly difficult thing to do for just a few years , let alone as long as it has now taken
So , continue to follow your club , you are needed , and dont be so hard on them , they have little choice but to take advantage of every opportunity to survive , we dont need anymore Bramleys or Blackpools'"
Unfortunately money talks and unless chairmen start to see a drop in income this 'scheme' will continue to the detriment of all but the SL clubs. The easiest and probably the most effective way to show what you think is to boycott games. I'll certainly not be putting cash in to the coffers of any club involved in this - and that'll mean missing visiting some great places and not seeing a few old friends.
Do you honestly believe if Swinton do get their own ground they'll be in any state to stand independently after a few years as Warrington's reserves? They're more likely to go down the Bramley route.......
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| Richard Moore and Kylie Leuleui to face Leigh this weekend. It has now become a competition between the 'partner' clubs to see who can manage the biggest p1sstake.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Richard Moore and Kylie Leuleui to face Leigh this weekend. It has now become a competition between the 'partner' clubs to see who can manage the biggest p1sstake.'"
[url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_10908-leuluai-and-moore-sign-dual-reg-deals.htmlKylie Leuluai and Richard Moore have signed dual-registration contracts with Hunslet.[/url
Wasn't the spirit of DR & partner- club arrangements to give CC & CC1 game time experience to SL's younger players ?
who's next - Adrian Morley in the next Swinton Game ?
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| Quote ="middleman"[url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_10908-leuluai-and-moore-sign-dual-reg-deals.htmlKylie Leuluai and Richard Moore have signed dual-registration contracts with Hunslet.[/url
Wasn't the spirit of DR & partner- club arrangements to give CC & CC1 game time experience to SL's younger players ?
who's next - Adrian Morley in the next Swinton Game ?'"
Well Swinton already had Paul Wood and Tyrone McCarthy on Sunday so it can't be ruled out! Wonder if Sinfield fancies a run out for Hunslet on Sunday as well?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Well Swinton already had Paul Wood and Tyrone McCarthy on Sunday so it can't be ruled out! Wonder if Sinfield fancies a run out for Hunslet on Sunday as well?'"
Why stop at Sinfield? Why not include Maguire & Burrow as well???
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| Quote ="rob_a"Why stop at Sinfield? Why not include Maguire & Burrow as well???'"
Michael Maguire?
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| Quote ="rob_a"Why stop at Sinfield? Why not include Maguire & Burrow as well???'"
If they are coming back from a long injury then they could well do.
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| I notice most of the usual suspects have avoided this thread , especially the ones who when the DR system was announced suggested we were all ' paranoid ' when we predicted the current farce
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| Quote ="Starbug"I notice most of the usual suspects have avoided this thread , especially the ones who when the DR system was announced suggested we were all ' paranoid ' when we predicted the current farce'"
I hope you don't include me in that, I held my hands up and conceded defeat last week.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So which side are you sitting on ?
It isn't just Swinton and their fans , 1stly , because they wont be the only club to do this , most of the rest will now follow , and 2ndly , it affects the credibility of the whole competition and all the clubs in it'"
It could be a ploy to get rid of the Twinned teams , and make SL into a 16 team comp.
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| Quote ="Wheels"I hope you don't include me in that, I held my hands up and conceded defeat last week.'"
Even smokey admitted he wasnt overly happy with this last week , but many have been conspicuous by their absence
So sponsored by an alcoholic drink nobody has heard of , plus no mention of ' How much ' , this abomination and the further de valuing by having the Championships finals at stadiums the fans get to visit on a regular basis
The stupidity of both the RFL and the club owners is truly outstanding
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Quote ="Starbug"I notice most of the usual suspects have avoided this thread , especially the ones who when the DR system was announced suggested we were all ' paranoid ' when we predicted the current farce'"
it seems you did.
Quote ="Starbug"What I find interesting is all the ' usual suspects
' avoiding this thread like the plague
You were told'"
If you are going to repeat yourself, you could maybe point out who had called you paranoid?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=543098&tsmp=1360177245
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Quote ="Starbug"I notice most of the usual suspects have avoided this thread , especially the ones who when the DR system was announced suggested we were all ' paranoid ' when we predicted the current farce'"
it seems you did.
Quote ="Starbug"What I find interesting is all the ' usual suspects
' avoiding this thread like the plague
You were told'"
If you are going to repeat yourself, you could maybe point out who had called you paranoid?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=543098&tsmp=1360177245
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| Apart from the obvious prostitution of the Championship league by skint SL clubs why not find the positives in this scheme? It may just make the Hunslets and the Dewsburys more competitive. It may just make games more interesting. If there's nothing to stop short sighted Chairmen from doing this lets just see how it pans out over the next couple of years.
One thing's for sure - Workington will finish fifth with all those Widnes players.
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| How does this help the future of the game? [url=http://eggchasing.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/dual-registration-why/Awful rule[/url
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