What difference? that London won't ever come close to having the fanbase that Wigan have, yeah, you got me there, your fans did still turn up in numbers.
Yet you were getting spanked left right and centre in 2006, you were a LONG way off the bottom (actually something that London aren't..ATM)
Going by your call in your ridiculous opening post my comparison is absolutely valid, Wigan should have been dropped to Div 1 & rebuilt, but no, that didn't happen because we have rules in place, something you seem not to be able to grasp.
That the London team atm is at least trying and giving it a go with their very much depleted squad/talent, but nope, the non tryers/getting battered every week Wigan of 2006 (& being battered by those right at the bottom) were given more than every opportunity, that you ended up cheating to stay up should never have happened because going by your suggestion you'd have been in Div 1 before half a dozen games had being played..

At least have some respect for a club with players that are trying, your lot in the first dozen games were completely pants, no effort at all. to have London dropped into the championship 5 games in then why on earth didn't the RFL just drop your load of no-hopers/non tryers back into the then Div One?
See, we can all come up with absolute , yours just happen to kick it off, now jog on sonny back to your own club and let London & the RFL worry about their predicament

maybe you should read the rest of my posts in this thread, your acting like i am saying it as some sort of punishment towards London when i am saying it for the exact opposite reason. And Wigan obviously won enough games to stay up so still don't see your point and we never cheated as already said, But the team didn't need rebuilding the management needed to be replaced completely different situation no matter how you try and suggest it did. Compare the wigan team of that year to London or even the clubs and obviously there is more reasons to it.

Try this is if you don't like the thread don't bother posting on it and stick to talking about some ponies ruining the grass at hull.

Ah the old chestnut. Immature poster losing argument resorts to childish retorts. Keep it going Knocker, we've got this one on the run!!

this old one where club fans try to stick together

. you can do it knocker cut his head off haha

Some would argue that the crowds are as low as they are because when Brisbane "stole" the club from us, they "over-targeted" London's antipodean populace, a practice that continued under various owners until the Marketing, PR & Advertising simply stopped altogether, under Hughes/MacKay. No offence mate, but "fair weather fans" are the last thing we needed for a sustainable club!

The club just need FANS... 'fair weather' or not.

I look at it this way. I live in London. I hang out with people who like live sport. We would happily come along and watch a game if the product was any good. So if we did...and enjoyed the whole experience...we would tell other people...who would maybe go along and see for themselves.

I seem to remember this sort of thread popping up on the scarlet turkey last season and once again it's the same posters saying exactly the same things.
I really couldn't understand fans with the my club is wonderful but yours shouldn't be playing mine attitude, think about it if we start throwing clubs out of the league because they are doing it tough then we end up with a big four super league and guess what even then someone will still be last.

Amen to that.

The product has been decent, in the past, it's only in the last few season that london have become poor. In years gone by they have challenged and made the playoffs even when it was a top 6. My sister lives in London so i get down to quite a few games, they just can't seem to grow the club, good or bad team.

Hopefully!

People are talking like London are already relegated, but as it stand they are only 1 point from safety! They have an experienced coach and look to have some promising youngsters with the team still bedding in. Let's not write them off, they will fight until the death!!

This isn't over.

No, look at it this way.

London were, and are now again a Championship (2nd tier) sized club!

They were taken over when Brisbane were "tipped the nod" that London was to be "given" top flight status.

Successive owners have spent a lot making the product appeal to "fair weather fans" and failed!

A couple of poor seasons and they (like yourself) won't come anymore, and it implodes.

This is now the SECOND time this has happened, first as Fulham and now with Broncos. (3rd if you include Highfield)!!!!

In fact all 3 clubs managed the heady heights of 6k averages, spending more than they had to achieve it and eventually the inevitable happens. There aren't enough Antipodeans in London interested in live RL to sustain a top SL club, if it's not a TOP club, you won't come, so I believe we are better off without you guys, to slowly develop from the bottom up as a competitive Championship club (which we were before the hijack).

You do realise we had more fans in the 2nd tier than we do now don't you? No, well we did, 'nuff said!

According to the website a walk up ticket to go and watch London play averages around the £20 mark.

So I turn up with 5 mates ...that's about £120 on tickets alone...not including the money we will spend on a few beers, food, programme etc etc. If we have a good time we will come back next time there is a home fixture .. maybe we will bring a few more people.

I think fair weather fans are just as important

tickets.sky.com/Rugby/E-a0Ab000000BcCTyEAN special offers for the Cas' game. I'm not saying I don't want you to go Shane, I'd love you and your buddies to come along what I'm saying is London RL were not big enough to sustain a high end top flight club, the club should have been left to continue it's development from the ashes of the old Fulham club, building steadily instead the same mistake was repeated! There aren't enough of us to sustain the investment required!

tickets.sky.com/Rugby/E-a0Ab000000BcCTyEAN special offers for the Cas' game. I'm not saying I don't want you to go Shane, I'd love you and your buddies to come along what I'm saying is London RL were not big enough to sustain a high end top flight club, the club should have been left to continue it's development from the ashes of the old Fulham club, building steadily instead the same mistake was repeated! There aren't enough of us to sustain the investment required!

over exaggeration or what?

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London don't have a core set of fans that can support the club independently so fair weather fans are massive for them.

Ultimatley all clubs, like all businesses have to find their level

Thats as a premature [itop-flight[/i entity, we had found a level and were growing, that was gazumped and ploncked into a pond we were too small to survive in!

Exactly my point and the reason i posted this thread. Its not a dig at London if anything its more why haven't the RFL helped the Broncos out more, the past 2 season hasn't sent the club back to day one. There is a growing fan base in London or "down South" but they aren't going to pay money to watch a team get thumped every weekend.

The problem with RFL help dubs' is it all revolves around maintaining London at top-flight, to help them sell to Sky so Sky can sell SLE.

The help we needed was a permanent home, lots of small disused stadiums around, Edgware FC, Leyton FC to name but two and a plethora more for LONG TERM sharing.

But no..."build it and they'll come" mentality prevailed and here we are, a third time....staring oblivion in the face.

i trust you haven't been to watch the broncos live at the hive?
why not give it a go? maybe the team isn't exactly setting the SL alight but im sure if you were a genuine RL supporter then im pretty sure, you would enjoy watching live games? it's not all about the winning, i experienced the best times watching huddersfield when we were rubbish,as it was the whole social thing as much as the result of the game.
surely as a fan or rugby league you would want to see a london club prosper and would want to do your bit to try and help it happen?

We!!!

Personally thought it was a spirited performance from London who are quite clearly well behind the rest. But they will improve and just like Salford their playing rooster has had a massive overhaul. As others have commented I think I've only heard of 2 or 3 of their players. So they're trying to put together a completely new team, it takes time. Unfortunately, by the time they've gelled it's probably going to be to late.

But, the problem doesn't lie with the playing squad. How can a club continually up sticks, move and expect to grow it's fan base? How can you possibly support a club with gates around 1,000? Forget how they perform on the pitch. The club needs to sort itself out off the pitch and settle in one location otherwise you might as well shut up shop. Heck, if Wakefield moved as much as London and it was as problematic to get to these grounds as London I'd have packed in a long time ago.

Agree 100%, and when they find that level get the right people in place to grow the business and in time raise their level in the pecking order. Maintaining that false position will just end in disaster.

South Wales Crusader out!

I read what you wrote, it was a complete nonsense as I've already stated at least twice, so I'm sure you understand my position...or maybe you don't. Was it the joined up writing that confused you


what I do completely understand is your arrogance as a Goon supporter, you take it upon yourself to try to change the rules mid season for the apparent betterment of a club (not even your own..) that hasn't won a game and is likely to get relegated this season.
You just cannot stand the embarssment caused by the London club to even have the temerity to be in the same league as the great and oh so wonderful Wigan club whom have never ever being in the self same situation in their illustrous history. They've never being an embaressment to the sport by being hammered week in week out by the other relegation potentials, even worse having such a massive support base following blindly (how very dare they)

Your opening post shows just how arrogant you & your ilk are, London have a right to play in SL, they have NEVER finished bottom whilst being in SL, they have NEVER CHEATED whislt in SL. So by what right do you decree that they should be relegated because you as an individual don't like what is happening there? That you cannot link the nonsense you wrote to my very direct comparison to your own club back in 2006 serves to prove that you have no understanding of what you even wrote in the first instance and what a load of arrogant b0llocks it was.

As I said (did you read what I wrote because I'm unsure given your lame response)..the only difference is that your fans loyally turned out despite the rudderless garabage that was on show, that you had talented players whom seemingly couldn't be d to play week in, week out says to me London have MORE of a right to stay in SL until their actual relegation under the rules we have than your oh so mighty club did back in 2006. Because I'd rather watch tryers than watch talented no-hope, non tryers. Again, as I said, by your new (arrogant Wigan fan) rules you should have been on your way to Division One..no, you pulled your way out of the relegation zone and stayed up (by whatever means you want to apply)

You think you're somehow helping London RL out by asking them to just jack it in and go play in the championship because you don't want them seemingly being embaressed every game (I think Bradford & Warrington matches were hardly embaressing)

Try this, if you don't like the reasoned responses to nonsense posts such as your own, don't bother posting on RL fans and stick to talking about something you have more comprehension about, as an arrogant GOON fan I'd find that very hard to narrow down where & what you could post but good luck to you fellah/lass.

The first win for this London side will be in about mid February v Leigh at the Hive in the Championship, witnessed by 500 or so hardy souls.
David Hughes and the RFL are truly reaping what they have sewn in the capital/south of the country.....200 at Hemel, 301 at Oxford and 479 at Skolars...this Thursday at the hive could see that Skolars figure being the biggest crowd in London this week.

As starbug says, businesses and clubs need to find their level. The Broncos are doing just that.