Indeed I did. IIRC I started by saying you would finish bottom and later changed that to Widnes bottom with you 11th?

I was proven wrong and Wakefield were a joy to watch at times last year and it was a real shame you couldn't scrape that 4th place. Hell if we had already got 3rd sewn up by then I would have even been willing the ref to make a mistake and award that drop goal.

That said I do think the 7 teams I have put ahead of you, should everyone have a fair crack with luck, injuries and everything else, are just a little bit stronger than you. But who knows?

Perhaps you should read it again.

Ninth! Bit mean John for a team with four of the finest exiles in he land

1. Saints
2. Leeds
3. Hull F.C
4 . Cas
5. Wire
6. Pies
7. Wakey
8. Catalans
9. Giants
10. Salford
11. K.R
12. Widnes

No relegation & 14 team SL announced with only 4 regular rounds to go = many dead rubbers !

Hull
Saints
Leeds
Cas
Wigan
Warrington
Wakefield
Huddersfield
Catalans
Widnes
Hull KR
Salford

You need to take you're mask off owd lad.

1. Hull FC
2. Leeds
3. Castleford
4. Warrington
5. St Helens
6. Wigan
7. Wakefield
8. Huddersfield
9. Catalans
10. Hull KR
11. Widnes
12. Salford

Hull FC to beat Leeds in the Grand Final.

Castleford to win the challenge cup

Toronto to come up, Widnes to beat Salford in the MPG.

Have you got the same mask on as well?

You see, this thread is about predictions. If no one is predicting Leigh to get promoted then people must think Toronto have a better squad. Its all a matter of opinions. ATEOTD only in September will we know who if any team is promoted.

Warrington
Hull FC
Leeds
Castleford
Wakefield
St. Helens
Wigan
Huddersfield
Catalans
Hull KR
Widnes
Salford.

Who mentioned Leigh? Idiot

If we have a 14 team SL for 2019 it's likely no one will be relegated either. Some folk.

As it stands, until someone says otherwise we will have a 12 team SL. You're the one who is making themselves look rather silly by replying to any post that predicts Toronto being promoted.

Wait until all his mates on the Leigh board realise they don't have to belong to a SL club to vote, they'll soon alter all that

Until we know what the new structure is going to be(which there will be),predictions can't really be made on P&R. In fact you are now looking rather silly by jumping the gun, surmising to something i didn't predict. If you would like to read them again, have a see if i mention Toronto or Leigh? There you go.......Now don't you feel silly?

Can you elaborate? You're laughing at your post that doesn't make sense.

We can only predict on what we know and what we know is that we are in a 12 team SL with the super 8s at the end of the season. It looks perfectly clear to me that people are making predictions based on this format. You may not have named Toronto, but everyone knows what you are getting at. You are very predictable and rather touchy. Calm yourself down.

Predictions are supposed to be a guess at what might happen in the future. Its perfectly reasonable for someone to suggest that they think Toronto, Leigh or anyone will be promoted whether they know the format or not.

SL bottom 4 - HKR Widnes Wakefield Salford
CC Winners - Wigan
LLS - Warrington
GF- St Helens

SL to go to 14 with Leigh Toronto and Toulouse winning promotion and either Salford/Widnes/HKR relegated

Nothing against Leigh. Both teams have strong squads for that level, I just think Toronto have a lot of momentum behind them from last season, whereas Leigh are recovering from relegation. The games between them will be tasty! I can see the wheels falling off at Salford now that Koukash has departed.

Toronto will get a new one ripped on the 4th, don't miss it

There will be a new structure for 2019 so you are making predictions on the unknown atm. I couldn't care less who thinks Toronto will be promoted,that's not the point. You are making claims about me because of your assumptions and predictions without any substance. When you have facts,then fair enough. BTW -
I am calm, and also chilled and not at all touchy,I initially responded to a poster who wasn't seeing the changes the new structure might bring. Obviously, I'd like to see Leigh back in SL, but until we know what the new structure is going to be, I can't say or predict anything, but you thought i got shirty because someone else predicted Toronto. That's silly.

1. Hull - Radford'll finally get them consistent.
2. Saints - GF win
3. Wire - Good improvement readying for a big push next year. EDIT: guess I'm saying 2019 could be their year!
4. Leeds - CC win also looking good for 2019
5. Cas - loss of fear factor but still a decent side
6. Wigan - Seem a bit aimless, badly need Williams to rekindle his form and their pack to perform.
7. Wakey - Decent season again, might finish as high as 5th. Fast teams running an oversized pack ragged will give them a poor points diff though.
8. Hudds - Brough grabbing fewer and fewer games by the throat as he ages.
9. Catalans - Survive easily but too many imports coasting as usual.
10. Salford - Battlers in adversity
11. Widnes - Not enough depth, odd good win though.
12. HKR - McGuire to save his best til last and carry them through the MPG.

Hull FC
St. Helens
Castleford
Leeds
Wigan
Warrington
Wakefield
Widnes
Huddersfield
Salford
Catalans
HullKR

Wigan CC
St. Helens GF

can see hull finishing top with saints close second, Leeds close 3rd wire, cas 4-5th. Wigan will not win anything and will not make top 4
Leeds will win either CC OF Gf but not LL
Hull to win at east one trophy. saints to get to grand final but not win it.

Hull
saints
leeds
wire
cas
wakey
wigan
catalans
hull kr
hudderfield
salford
widnes.

For the people picking Hull to finish top. I would have put us there myself if not for what we are going to have to contest with in the first few weeks.

After Huddersfield at home we obviously fly out to Aus, play Wigan, always a tough game. Then whilst some other sides are getting a break we are playing St George. Then flying back to play Cas away, Wire home and Leeds away in the space of 13 days.

To win the LLS you really need to hit the ground running, but there is every chance we could have a losing record and a few bruised bodies after 5 rounds. I dont think the LLS is a real goal. It will all be about keeping key players fresh, safely making the 4 and trying to be at our best when the playoffs arrive.