Why would a successful appeal against a decision made by a panel comprising two partners from Pinsent Masons and an insolvency expert have any effect on Nigel Wood?

We could have the scenario of the Bulls being successful in there appeal get the 6 points back and win a few games at the expense of Salford. Then up steps the Doctor with his money and drags the RFL to court to appeal against the successful appeal.....farce.

What if they lose again?

Another appeal, then another...

It's a rerun of the Abu Quatada saga!

Because this mess has the RFL's finger prints all over it. I'm hoping the higher up it goes the more we'll get to know about all the shady goings on at Odsal over the past three years.

I'm sure I heard on Radio Leeds the other night, Marc Green say something like this is to get six points back but reset the process.

In this sense, the process could restart again and Bulls get six points back only to lose points again down the line.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p020tjmz 13:50 in "For a short period, we will get our points back. Whether we keep them is a different argument because the process then starts again."

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p020tjmz 13:50 in "For a short period, we will get our points back. Whether we keep them is a different argument because the process then starts again."

What are the grounds for the appeal? Any different to the last one?

Green's a fool. Spend your money on the lame-duck club you bought, not dragging it's barely breathing body through the mire.

If Bradford feel that the punishment is unjust or incorrectly applied (and they have every right to feel that way), then they are within their rights to challenge that through whatever legal processes are availabe to do that.

Plenty of people argued that Leeds should have never taken to Bradford to court over the Iesytn Harris saga "because they already had Danny McGuire" and because "the RFL found nothing wrong with the contract". Of course, it later transpired that Leeds were absolutely right to pursue the action that they did.

Well they could certainly stop them playing at Odsal as the RFL own the lease.

Have the RFL or the panel that considered the first appeal gone outside their remit or applied a penalty that is not in the rules?

If not I'm struggling to see how the High Court could overturn the decision effectively adjudicating on a private clubs' membership rules. If the penalty could be seen as unreasonable, maybe, but if its within the rules laid down by the RFL that member clubs effectively sign up to (say 2-8 points deduction for going into admin), how could it be considered unreasonable?

If they're arguing that the proper process wasn't followed and that it could start the whole thing off again, then Bradford are dafter than I thought.

"Sorry we didn't follow the proper process, here's your points back. Now we have followed it, we're taking them off you again."

"Very kind. All sorted and happy now"

People seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that the High Court can overturn the sporting sanction of deducting 6 points. They can not do that, they have no jurisdiction to do that - they are only able to rule on points of law.

As I understand it, this action is to try and win the right to have the appeal against the points deduction heard. The independent panel didn't even consider the Bulls' appeal as they found that it had no merit and didn't meet the threshold of evidence and failed to offer any substantive grounds for an appeal. It wasn't so much that they rejected the appeal, more that they refused to even consider it in the first place. This is what Green wants, the right to have the appeal heard and considered.

Any court action is not an appeal against the points deduction in itself, it is an attempt to force the panel to consider the appeal against the points deduction.

Since i stopped trying to keep up with the circus that is the Bradford Bulls can someone explain in simple terms what is it exactly they are taking to the High Court ? as far as i know they were deducted 6 points for going into admin (again) appealed it, lost the appeal and are now appealing against the appeal ?? if that's correct why ha ve they been hard done to ?

What's the likelihood that if they get their points back, yet still get relegated, they will ask for compensation from the RFL based on their inability to recruit players caused by being on -6 pts........

They didn't lose the appeal as such. It never got as far as even being heard as the independent panel ruled that there were insufficient grounds for appeal, so it was dismissed without a proper hearing even taking place.

Relegation is likely to be the end of the club so nothing to lose really.

So they tried to appeal without even putting a case together? Whose fault is that then?

One major point, if the proposed changes to the league 2 x 12 and 3 x 8 is put on hold, scuppered or scrapped because of this what happens next.. Licensing currently ends as of 2014, what is to stop the RFL just having a mini licence period of 1 year and all league clubs have to apply, best 12 get SL1 licence next 12 get SL2 licence and rest get championship 1 licence. The RFL will determine the strength of clubs based on current and past licence records..

What Licence will they give the Bulls...????

Such a shame to see the once mighty bulls reduced to a mess of a club. That said, like a dog that is suffering, its time to put the bulls out of their misery. Enough is enough now.

Kind Regards

King James

Rubbish!

IIRC none of the clubs who have been relegated have gone out of business and several have gone back up again fitter and stronger.

Believe it or not THERE IS LIFE OUTSIDE SUPERLEAGUE!

A nomadic hand to mouth existence. Like the Walking dead. Can't decide if being outside super league is akin to being the survivors or the zombies.

whilst being in Superleague is Nirvana where all the clubs are absolutely coining it in, totally financially secure and whose players all drive Ferraris and Lambos.

With your attitude no wonder British RL is in the state it's in.

Limping along in front of 1500 in a cva with virtually zero chance of getting back into SL isn't life, it's merely survival for a club with the pedigree of the Bulls.

Its bollox like this that really pi553s off non SL club fans

' Virtually ' no chance is a whole lot better than NO chance at ALL as we have had for the last few years, a few years when your club has made a pigs ear out of a system that was supposed to protect you enough to not end up where you now are, a system designed to help you grow, a system designed to improve proffessional RL in this country, well you cocked it all up

So now you pay the price for that incompetance

' PEDIGREE ' My arris

I've been where they are going, it's a dark desolate place where your very existence hangs by a thread. They have shown a well run Bradford SL side can be a massive plus for the competition. There is no one outside SL that can offer as much as a well run Bulls.

It's been a long time since Bulls were well run...and nothing looks like changing there anytime soon.

The clubs outside SL deserve their chance to either survive or mess up just as the Bulls have.

If they fail, it's their fault, but at least they will have had the chance.

When Bulls fail, repeatedly, it always seems to have been someone else's fault.