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| So a couple of chavs get Cas into bother...but when Wakefield fans threw stuff onto the pitch at Cas they got let off, when they chased the ref off the pitch they got let off. When Leeds fans littered the pitch in bottles, they got let off...Catalan players mocking Cas fans (which started the throwing according to people in the WRE) get let off, the Catalan player that threw a bottle back and hit a fan gets let off...but yeah typical RFL make an example out of Cas ala McGoldrick getting banned for something Fozzard gets away with every week
Or how about when Salford fans threw bottles and a FLAIR onto the pitch at the Jungle, narrowly missing the in goal judge and Richard Owen, nothing said about that either.
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| Its a shame as it has already happend with cas this season already. When briscoe went over at craven park against them a bottle was thrown onto the pitch. I no its a very small minority but i have seen it at lots of games, the funnniest 1 was seeing a kr fan throw a program at a linesman
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"What absolute tosh!!!
So if there is a problem it is someone else who has caused it?
Since when has a referee been responsible for any player or spectator?
What would like them to do?
Wipe their backsides if they go to the loo?
Buy them a pint if they are thirsty?
Smooth the players furrowed brows when they drop the ball, miss a tackle, stand off side etc., etc..
No the answer is the people who caused the problem are people who limited intelligence who probably think society owes them everything and they owe society nothing.
And it's DEFINITELY not their fault no matter what happens.
It's about time they took PERSONAL responsibility for their actions and suffer the subsequent reactions.'"
I think in your haste to demonstrate your superior wit you have missed my point. Allow me to reiterate it.
People get annoyed for a reason. In this case it was because they felt the referee was not being as fair as he should be (i.e not going to the video ref for debatable tries, not being consistent with offsides, allowing a number of high tackles with no real sanction).
The referee's actions influence people. If he had been seen to be more consistent, people would not have been frustrated.
Again, before you jump in with a load of nonsense about how I am condoning the crowd reaction, I'm not. It was unacceptable. What I am saying is human beings react to events with emotion.
Event - rubbish ref
Emotion - anger
Result - aggression
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| Quote ="Gaslight"So a couple of chavs get Cas into bother...but when Wakefield fans threw stuff onto the pitch at Cas they got let off, when they chased the ref off the pitch they got let off. When Leeds fans littered the pitch in bottles, they got let off...Catalan players mocking Cas fans (which started the throwing according to people in the WRE) get let off, the Catalan player that threw a bottle back and hit a fan gets let off...but yeah typical RFL make an example out of Cas ala McGoldrick getting banned for something Fozzard gets away with every week
Or how about when Salford fans threw bottles and a FLAIR onto the pitch at the Jungle, narrowly missing the in goal judge and Richard Owen, nothing said about that either.'" PMSL
Were these the same fans who were shouting for non-existent offences all night? Also have you got any evidence that a Catalan player threw a bottle at a fan? Because that is a very serious allegation and I seriously doubt that it is true.
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"PMSL
Talk about a dummy spit. Also have you got any evidence that a Catalan player threw a bottle at a fan?'"
Apart from the person it hit and many people in the WRE?
If the camera in that stand Sky put there was still rolling at the time that would have picked it up.
Dummy spit? so stating facts is now a dummy spit?
Yeah the fans shouldn't have thrown the bottles - but why should Cas suffer when plenty of other teams have got away with far worse?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Apart from the person it hit and many people in the WRE?
If the camera in that stand Sky put there was still rolling at the time that would have picked it up.
Dummy spit? so stating facts is now a dummy spit?
Yeah the fans shouldn't have thrown the bottles - but why should Cas suffer when plenty of other teams have got away with far worse?'"
so if someone gets away with murder the police should stop all murder investigations?
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"so if someone gets away with murder the police should stop all murder investigations?'"
No but what's worse, a few bottles or a good 50+ bottles, bog roll and flair?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Apart from the person it hit and many people in the WRE?
If the camera in that stand Sky put there was still rolling at the time that would have picked it up.
Dummy spit? so stating facts is now a dummy spit?
Yeah the fans shouldn't have thrown the bottles - but why should Cas suffer when plenty of other teams have got away with far worse?'" As I said in my edited post, that is not a credible source
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"As I said in my edited post, that is not a credible source
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What? People that were actually there?
Or are we just supposed to ha de ha laugh at your anti-Cas fans comedy post? Hmmmmm. Ho ho ho.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"No but what's worse, a few bottles or a good 50+ bottles, bog roll and flair?'"
frankly things should have been done in the past but haven't but it does have to start somewhere so justify to me why it shouldn't be cas after yesterday ?
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| Quote ="peter parker"I think in your haste to demonstrate your superior wit you have missed my point. Allow me to reiterate it.
People get annoyed for a reason. In this case it was because they felt the referee was not being as fair as he should be (i.e not going to the video ref for debatable tries, not being consistent with offsides, allowing a number of high tackles with no real sanction).
The referee's actions influence people. If he had been seen to be more consistent, people would not have been frustrated.
Again, before you jump in with a load of nonsense about how I am condoning the crowd reaction, I'm not. It was unacceptable. What I am saying is human beings react to events with emotion.
Event - rubbish ref
Emotion - anger
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Every major decision was correct.
Maybe the Cas fans should learn the rules.
The only debatable one was the video ref cas try which by the letter of the law should have been disallowed. Soo you were one up there.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"frankly things should have been done in the past but haven't but it does have to start somewhere so justify to me why it shouldn't be cas after yesterday ?'"
Because it should have started a long time ago, so making an example out of Cas is only not fair, but could land the RFL in hot water because Sky Sports News has footage of Salford throwing stuff onto the pitch, and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody has pictures too, so if Cas get a fine/points deduction etc, Cas could just gather up this evidence, ask the RFL why Salford weren't fined, and if the RFL again ignore it, they could end up in court.
Quote ="Dico"Every major decision was correct.
Maybe the Cas fans should learn the rules.
The only debatable one was the video ref cas try which by the letter of the law should have been disallowed. Soo you were one up there.'"
Pelo was a double movement, and all the high tackles missed all add up to field position and less ball in hand for Catalan so you can't say all major decisions were correct.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Because it should have started a long time ago, so making an example out of Cas is only not fair, but could land the RFL in hot water because Sky Sports News has footage of Salford throwing stuff onto the pitch, and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody has pictures too, so if Cas get a fine/points deduction etc, Cas could just gather up this evidence, ask the RFL why Salford weren't fined, and if the RFL again ignore it, they could end up in court.
Pelo was a double movement, and all the high tackles missed all add up to field position and less ball in hand for Catalan so you can't say all major decisions were correct.'"
all the RFL have to do is bring out a zero tolerance policy and implement it and from that point on just be consistent.
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| Quote ="littlerich"What? People that were actually there?
Or are we just supposed to ha de ha laugh at your anti-Cas fans comedy post? Hmmmmm. Ho ho ho.'" No, I'm just going to take with a pinch of salt the opinions of what was largely a group of fans who had clearly been heard to be making drunken, inaccurate remarks all night and who were throwing bottles onto the pitch. Apart from the fact that nobody has backed 'Gaslight' up, that his information was second-hand and the fact that all the posters on the Cas board are saying that the bottle was thrown by a steward. If a Catalans player had thrown a bottle into the crowd, he would have been banned for life. You can't just go round making accusations like that.
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| a catalans player didn't throw a bottle it is just gaslight spouting tosh for a change, a bottle was thrown back into the crowd but it was a by a steward (equally as shocking) apparently the steward was sacked on the spot
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| Quote ="danny boy"a catalans player didn't throw a bottle it is just gaslight spouting tosh for a change, a bottle was thrown back into the crowd but it was a by a steward (equally as shocking) apparently the steward was sacked on the spot'"
So because I've heard from more then 1 person it was a player it's tosh?
I've also heard a steward threw one and it hit/just missed (depends who you ask) a fan, he was sacked and Wright said nothing else can be done because there's no CCTV.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"'"
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Should Castleford face any punishment ?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"So because I've heard from more then 1 person it was a player it's tosh?
I've also heard a steward threw one and it hit/just missed (depends who you ask) a fan, he was sacked and Wright said nothing else can be done because there's no CCTV.'"
and where are all these people you've heard it from? your the only cas fan who is saying this and all it looks like to everyone else is you just trying to make an excuse up to keep the spotlight away from some of our idiotic and pathetic fans
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| Quote ="danny boy"a catalans player didn't throw a bottle it is just gaslight spouting tosh for a change, a bottle was thrown back into the crowd but it was a by a steward (equally as shocking) apparently the steward was sacked on the spot'" Good on Cas for acting so quickly and sacking him on the spot then, hopefully if they manage to identify the people responsible for this they react in the same way and ban them from games.
I think people are going very over the top saying to dock the club points/play a game without a crowd - neither of them are going to stop the idiots doing it in the future.
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| Quote ="gateaux"I think people are going very over the top saying to dock the club points/play a game without a crowd - neither of them are going to stop the idiots doing it in the future.'"
Imagine this scenario in Hull? Such is the bitter rivalry, you'd get Hull fans dressing up as Hull KR fans (and vice versa) and causing a bit of "home" trouble just to get the two points deducted from their rivals. All they'd have to do is swallow a bit of pride and wear the opposition shirt
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| Quote ="littlerich"Imagine this scenario in Hull? Such is the bitter rivalry, you'd get Hull fans dressing up as Hull KR fans (and vice versa) and causing a bit of "home" trouble just to get the two points deducted from their rivals. All they'd have to do is swallow a bit of pride and wear the opposition shirt icon_biggrin.gif'" would never happen!! lol
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| Quote ="littlerich"Imagine this scenario in Hull? Such is the bitter rivalry, you'd get Hull fans dressing up as Hull KR fans (and vice versa) and causing a bit of "home" trouble just to get the two points deducted from their rivals. All they'd have to do is swallow a bit of pride and wear the opposition shirt
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would you wear a Bradford top
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"would you wear a Bradford top
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It wouldn't fit - i'm not fat enough.
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| Quote ="littlerich"It wouldn't fit - i'm not fat enough.'"
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| Quote ="Gaslight"So because I've heard from more then 1 person it was a player it's tosh?
I've also heard a steward threw one and it hit/just missed (depends who you ask) a fan, he was sacked and Wright said nothing else can be done because there's no CCTV.'"
No Catalan player threw anything back into the crowd, a couple of players threw them to the side of the pitch, the bottle that went into the crowd was from a steward who kicked it back into the stand... and all this talk about it was the Catalan players who caused it is crap aswell, yeah they shouldnt have reacted to it at all, but there were a load of bottles thrown before any of them reacted.
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