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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Coming through now
Sarginson, Mossop, Isa, FPN - all no charge
Edit - FPN, no charge for the hair pull, Grade A charge for the punch.'"
Zero game ban for FPN. Great stuff.
As full a quota as possible for the semi.
I hope Lenagan has sent the gift baskets out by special delivery.
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| yep there will be no excuses when Hull rip you a new hole
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| Quote ="wire-till-i-die"yep there will be no excuses when Hull rip you a new booty hole'"
The mystery virus may make a return or wane will blame the officials for allowing hull to slow the ruck down
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| No charge for Ablett either. How can this sport get any more embarrassing.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Zero game ban for FPN. Great stuff.
As full a quota as possible for the semi.
I hope Lenagan has sent the gift baskets out by special delivery.'"
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What a pointless response. First, where is your evidence that legal tackles to the legs cause accidents. (Illegal ones are not relevant - they shouldn't happen and if they do should be penalized). There isn't any that I know of, other than the obvious fact that for every 1000 legal tackles of any sort, a fairly predictable small percentage will unpredictably result in some unintended injury.
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Stefan ratchford, 2013 Grand Final, two up top and Harrison Hansen comes in at an odd angle from behind through what was designated his hip and deemed a legal challenge. But Hansen took his leg out and he fell so awkwardly with two tacklers on top, and one underneath pushing his leg in a different direction, it was so awkward looking you could imagine it on a fail army video on YouTube.
Yeah injuries do happen, I understand that, see the boudebza tackle, I think that was an accident, and didn't deserve 4 games, but the type of thing you see repeatedly in wigan is the lunging really hard with the shoulder at the knees and lower unexpectedly.
That's all I'm talking about
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What a pointless response. First, where is your evidence that legal tackles to the legs cause accidents. (Illegal ones are not relevant - they shouldn't happen and if they do should be penalized). There isn't any that I know of, other than the obvious fact that for every 1000 legal tackles of any sort, a fairly predictable small percentage will unpredictably result in some unintended injury.
Second, how do you "tackle properly" a strong forward who is surrounded by defenders but is stil freel powerful enough to be making ground, which is why the ref has not called "held"?
It is easy to say the ref should call held very early, but surely you don't want to see barnstorming powerful thrusts through the advantage line neutered by almost immediate calls of "held"?'"
And speaking of pointless responses, having read this again, you seem to be addressing something the rest of us aren't talking about.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior""The eye gouge is of no relevance." There you have it. Please, continue to pretend you're concerned about foul play and player welfare...'"
You're just not getting it are you? We're talking about coached "tactics" of continual foul play, purposely attempting to injure "road kill" to put up on changing room and training ground walls. Week-after-week the same type of tackling throughout the team. Not individual incidents like an eye gouge by one Leeds player or Westwoods' punch on Green in the '13 GF that Wigan fans always seem to bring up as their defence of their "tactics". These are just stupid brain farts that are terrible incidents but they are not part of a club ethos.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"At the end of day, who's truly losing out here? You're trying to get oppo fans frothing at the mouth, but if you look inward half your fans seem to hate your style of play and it's not bringing you any trophies either.'"
I've made my thoughts on Shaun Wanes position at Wigan very clear on our forum.
It isn't gonna stop me coming on here laughing at all the foaming mouthed Wigan haters roaming about spouting nonsense.
Most with the well thought out chant.....Yawkshire...Yawkshire...Yawkshire...circling around their brainless skulls.
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"You're just not getting it are you? We're talking about coached "tactics" of continual foul play, purposely attempting to injure "road kill" to put up on changing room and training ground walls. Week-after-week the same type of tackling throughout the team. Not individual incidents like an eye gouge by one Leeds player or Westwoods' punch on Green in the '13 GF that Wigan fans always seem to bring up as their defence of their "tactics". These are just stupid brain farts that are terrible incidents but they are not part of a club ethos.'"
Yet when Flower had a "brain fart" it was a sign of how Wane coached the whole team. You can't have it both ways.
I'm definitely more attentive at games (which being in London I don't often get to do so) and I counted 2 for both Wigan and Saints of players going in at the knees of a stood up opponent at an angle. Mossop and Isa were the culprits on Wigans end, not sure of the Saints players but possibly second rowers? Tomkins' "horrendous" high tackle wasn't cited yet Matty Flemmings tackle in the air earned him a caution. They're under the microscope without a doubt, some of it justified - I remember a few game trot where quite a few players were chicken winging but then some of it is stuff happens week in week out at every game but Wigan are the ones who get brandished "thugs" for doing it.
I'm not going to say they're not deliberately not coached because I simply don't know - All I will say is if Wigan are they certainly aren't the only ones.
The "Roadkill Achieved" actually went hand in hand with a picture of a Wigan player, ball in hand, who'd steamrollered a defender - hence roadkill. Wether that makes the poster better or not I don't know but I'd certainly like to think professionals in the sport can work out a bit of hyperbole.
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| Current Discipline Referrals (approx) after 23 games:
Wigan 55
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Current Discipline Referrals (approx) after 23 games:
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Problem for Wakey our players tend to get the maximum punishment for the grade of offence
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Current Discipline Referrals (approx) after 23 games:
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Hull KR 48
Catalans 42
Warrington 40
Huddersfield 39
Castle ford 38
Salford 38
Leeds 35
Hull 33
St Helens 30
Widnes 29'"
Gandalfs in his tower researching Wigan's referrals..
Has the Wizard also researched Wigan's guilty charges.
Maybe Not.
Maybe the old Wizard has been bad and likes figures that look good to his old eyes regarding his superior neighbour.
Maybe the old wizard can't see certain things due to his bad eyesight.
Jusy Maybe..
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Problem for Wakey our players tend to get the maximum punishment for the grade of offence'"
And in Scott Moores case, they keep adding to it.
If you take his suspensions out, we'd be bottom of the list.
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| Punching an unconscious man is a brain fart. Have I just seen that?
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| Quote ="Willzay"No charge for Ablett either. How can this sport get any more embarrassing.'"
Im not sure the panel could have charged Ablett for not gouging. Not gouging isnt an offence.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Im not sure the panel could have charged Ablett for not gouging. Not gouging isnt an offence.'"
Maybe not, but what he did do deserved punishment.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Maybe not, but what he did do deserved punishment.'"
meh, bit of handbags
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Im not sure the panel could have charged Ablett for not gouging. Not gouging isnt an offence.'"
Not Guilty M'Lurd
Judge..Rt Hon (ex-sent off thug) Brian Mcdermott
No case to answer
Ref banned for 4 weeks.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Punching an unconscious man is a brain fart. Have I just seen that?'"
It was in quotes. My argument is that one person punches a prone player on the floor and it's a brain fart - another does it and it's endemic of a team whos number one concern is hurting the opposition. Ben Flower had a very good disciplinary record leading up to that, as bad as it was you can't chalk one to be one thing and the other to be another thing when it's convenient to your point.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"
Maybe the old wizard can't see certain things due to his bad eyesight.
Jusy Maybe..'"
Very Apt:-
Ziggy played for time
His Ego got sucked up into his mind.
Screwed up eyes
Screwed down hairdo
Kid was Crass, the Nazz and Blind.
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