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| Quote ="infamous grouse"I thought it was a good hard game where defences were on top and what I would expect of 2 top four sides
Most of the handling errors were caused by the tackling technique of both teams.
It may not be as entertaining for the neutral as the previous nights game between Widnes and Cas, the teams lower down the table have poorer defences therefore the games are high scoring.'"
I've seen far FAR better games that ended 6-4 than last night's game. I've seen better ball handling in far worse conditions. I've seen better defence (winning try efforts from Cark and Westerman) at a school game.
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| 1 large negative point, I think I counted 8 overseas players on the Hull side, is this the way to the top?
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| Quote ="boomer"1 large negative point, I think I counted 8 overseas players on the Hull side, is this the way to the top?'"
I think you counted wrong.
There were more lads born in Hull than born overseas last night.
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| Michaeals, Fonua, Talanoa, Tuimavave ,Minichello, Manu, Pritchard, i make it 7, not ideal at all, but to be fair as Mr.Zucchini Head pointed out they did also have plenty of lads that have come through their system or, at least born in Hull.
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| We do have more overseas players than most teams but at least they are all quality players and not average journeymen. I don't particularly mind where they come from so long as they are exciting to watch and taking us top of the league.
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| Quote ="infamous grouse"I thought it was a good hard game where defences were on top and what I would expect of 2 top four sides
Most of the handling errors were caused by the tackling technique of both teams.
It may not be as entertaining for the neutral as the previous nights game between Widnes and Cas, the teams lower down the table have poorer defences therefore the games are high scoring.'"
I dont think you will win any prizes for predicting Hill and Wire finishing top 4.
There isn't a bookies on the planet that will take that bet now.
Hull do now appear to be "the real deal" and as a supporter of a club that wont finish top 4, I think it would be great for the sport if FC could win either the LLS or GF.
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| Quote ="meast"Michaeals, Fonua, Talanoa, Tuimavave ,Minichello, Manu, Pritchard, i make it 7, not ideal at all, but to be fair as Mr.Zucchini Head pointed out they did also have plenty of lads that have come through their system or, at least born in Hull.'"
I'd like to be able to boast a full team of academy products too, but I don't think 7 is excessive really.
Besides, when you are talking about developing players for the good of the national team it should be about quality over quantity imo. Some teams have more English players in their team, but they are filler that don't have a hope in hell of representing their country. There are at least 5 players in that team that are in the England reckoning now, and they've all got their best years ahead of them.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Are they any neutrals actually still watching?'" Nah,,,I went to bed truly awful game....
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| Quote ="Hasbag"We do have more overseas players than most teams but at least they are all quality players and not average journeymen. I don't particularly mind where they come from so long as they are exciting to watch and taking us top of the league.'"
Indeed. Michaels is maybe the only one who you would say can be adequately replaced by a homegrown player (indeed him and Naughton have battled over the right wing spot all year). The rest are very good players indeed.
Incidentally, I'm not sure whose idea it was to sign him, but Fetuli Talanoa has to be one of the best bits of scouting in a long time. He was playing part time RU and working as a bin man when we signed him ffs. These days I reckon (biased as I am) he's probably in the top 5 for wingers in SL.
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| Saw a video of the fans fighting. No place for it, heavy bans should be handed out and the clubs should be fined for failing to control their fans.
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| Or does that rule only apply to some clubs and not all?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Saw a video of the fans fighting. No place for it, heavy bans should be handed out and the clubs should be fined for failing to control their fans.'"
What? Rugby fans don't fight or misbehave, it must have been football fans.
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| Very high error count - but it's worth noting that a large number of them weren't errors at all, but the result of a sneaky hand on the ball on the ref's blind side. I also thought that Mr Child was unusually lenient around the ruck - I don't know if Ellis gets some kind of dispensation because of his advancing years, but he in particular seems to have a free reign to lay all over the tackled player.
Certainly not a game to excite the neutral - but two very high quality teams playing an edgy game in pretty difficult conditions; I enjoyed it, and it certainly demonstrates that Hull are indeed, at long last, the real deal.
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| Bad handling in damp and humid conditions. You only had to look at the players shirts to see how soaked they were 20 minutes in.
Nevertheless, a great attacking side like Wire were reduced to scoring off 2 appalling errors by Hull and we defended superbly well when it counted. Our pack dominated - Watts, Ellis and Minichiello were outstanding.
Hardly a classic game but if the conditions hadn't taken over, Hull could have put a lot more points on the board.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Bad handling in damp and humid conditions. You only had to look at the players shirts to see how soaked they were 20 minutes in.
Nevertheless, a great attacking side like Wire were reduced to scoring off 2 appalling errors by Hull and we defended superbly well when it counted. Our pack dominated - Watts, Ellis and Minichiello were outstanding.
Hardly a classic game but if the conditions hadn't taken over, Hull could have put a lot more points on the board.'"
I agree, but lets not forget that Warrington had two clear cut chances bombed by Westerman and Clark. If only one of those had come off the result could have been a lot different!
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"I've seen far FAR better games that ended 6-4 than last night's game. I've seen better ball handling in far worse conditions. I've seen better defence (winning try efforts from Cark and Westerman) at a school game.'"
Couldnt agree more BSW.
We actually handled worse conditions better in the second half against Salford at their place when Sandow dropped 'that' goal, the rain was torrential at one point. We also built pressure really well in that second half after a truely abysmal first half....which is the annoying thing for me. Why could we not do that against Hull, quit the stupid offloads, respect the ball, earn field position and the chances will come.
Woeful!!
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"I agree, but lets not forget that Warrington had two clear cut chances bombed by Westerman and Clark. If only one of those had come off the result could have been a lot different!'"
What if Jamie shaul didn't lose the ball over our try line or lose the ball when frank off loaded it
What if marc snyed didn't delay his kick
We can all think of excuses
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| Quote ="number 6"What if Jamie shaul didn't lose the ball over our try line or lose the ball when frank off loaded it
What if marc snyed didn't delay his kick
We can all think of excuses'"
I think that was the point if you read the previous post from Diablo
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| Quote ="number 6"What if Jamie shaul didn't lose the ball over our try line or lose the ball when frank off loaded it
What if marc snyed didn't delay his kick
We can all think of excuses'"
Wasn't thinking of excuses.... was merely pointing out to Diablo1967 that Warrington also had chances to score more points than we did and that it isn't all about the conditions stopping Hull from scoring more points...like he suggested.
The fact is the game was awful, both sides had easy chances to score more points than they did. Had Hull took their missed chances then the score would have been more conclusive, had Warrington capitalised on even just one of those missed chances then the outcome may have been different.
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"Wasn't thinking of excuses.... was merely pointing out to Diablo1967 that Warrington also had chances to score more points than we did and that it isn't all about the conditions stopping Hull from scoring more points...like he suggested.
The fact is the game was awful, both sides had easy chances to score more points than they did. Had Hull took their missed chances then the score would have been more conclusive, had Warrington capitalised on even just one of those missed chances then the outcome may have been different.'"
we gave you two tries, if we had been smarter you would most probably have been nilled
like i said, what if? all ifs and buts
awful game, but two points in the bag is what was more important
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| Quote ="number 6"we gave you two tries, if we had been smarter you would most probably have been nilled
like i said, what if? all ifs and buts
awful game, but two points in the bag is what was more important'"
[i'IF we had been smarter you would most probably have been nilled?'[/i
Your just not getting it at all are you???
Feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall here.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"That's the sort of crap we have to deal with on the Rovers forum when they wander over to gloat and patronise.'"
I'm glad someone understands what I'm trying to say!!
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"I'm glad someone understands what I'm trying to say!!'"
Are you trying to say that if things had been different they would have been different?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Are you trying to say that if things had been different they would have been different?'"
I doubt they'd be different as far as Number 6 is concerned as it would involve reading AND writing
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