when I was a lad I was taught that the person who retaliated gets penalised. Therefore, Saints penalty was the correct decision.

what about retaliation to retaliation to something you did in the first place? Simple, Gilmour sent off and banned for the rest of the season.

On that basis, it should have been Leeds penalty. i.e. only thing seen was Smith first, Gilmour then throwing punches. Of course it was Gilmour first, but what was seen was Smith.

But then that would be against your agenda..... Or do you now accept it should have been Leeds penalty?

once again Leeds fans twisting the truth, he pulled the top of his shirt, not his hair.

What Leeds fan has said this? The OP isnt even a Leeds fan. In fact the majority of Leeds fans arent even that bothered about the result and have just accepted that we were beaten by the better team on the night. No excuses given or anything.

Aye but for some, they lack the capacity to see beyond that..

Was disappointed in Gilmour. Always rated him and was gutted Wigan let him go.

He's been on the end of some huge hits, been knocked senseless many times (normally for GB) and been targeted many times. However, I've never seen him kick off like that and when he does he chooses Lee Smith, probably half his size and a lot younger.

Whoever you think was to blame, Gilmour started windmilling and I thought better of him.

is a bit uncharacteristic for Gilmour

To be fair, smith pushed him in the face, if he had just pushed back smith would probably have got the first punch in,
not that any of gilmours hit the target.

Penalty should have gone Leeds way for that one.

Cunningham should have been penalised too.
Fair play to Burgess, he looked great for Leeds, and when he got his head smashed into the ground he stood up as if nothing had happened.

Leeds got away with a couple as well though eh?

Possible eye gauge by Gilmour?

Them grapes are really sour arent they

Cunningham did get penalised.

Moral of the story ? Dont think you're the hard man by pushing people in the face because you will get snotted in our sport.

Luckily for Smith. Gilmour dident connect with 1.

and lucky for gilmour as he'd ahve been able to put his feet up for a game or two

I dont think it was luck, my grandma could punch harder than Gilmour!!!!

you think my post was serious?

To be fair he was, although there is a case that he should have been sin binned, as both captains had just been put on a warning seconds before.

My sarcasm detector has had to be sent off for repair thanks to your post. Maybe r4yne should do the same

It was a wrong decision, it happens lets move on.

i forgot he got penalised,
anyway its all done and dusted now.

Looking forward to Friday,
for once I wouldnt be bothered if we lost that one.

Save our best until the week after.

COME ON SAINTS

He connected alright, it just happened to be with Jon Wilkin.

If you're going to play the hardman, at least try to remember not to punch your own teammates.

yes, as i understand it from talking to a friend who refs. however, you risk getting sent off. ie, gilmour could've got sent off but saints would still have had the penalty.

if he'd just sin binned them both there would likely have been no more nonsense. i don't agree with all this 'it was good reffing, it let the game flow etc...'

Yup, penalty is based on the first offence (or the first offence seen by the officials in this case). Any subsequent foul play is dealt with separately but unlike in Union the penalty cannot be reversed for retaliation.

He didn't pull his hair, he had hold of his collar.

listening to the highlights, there were complaints of a finger in smith's eye

And Gilmour clearly tells the ref that he was bitten by Smith - I couldn't see either alleged offence on the replays but it would explain the OTT reaction from Gilmour, a player not known for chucking his fists around.