How did Saints get a Penalty from that?

Gilmour pulls Smiths hair in the tackle, Smith re-acts, Gilmour swings about five punches most of them hitting the back of another Saints player. Saints get the penalty.

Discuss?

Because Lee Smith lashed out in the tackle, and that was what attracted the attention of the touch judges and referee.

That they managed to miss the original offence isn't a surprise unfortunately, and it set the tone for the rest of the game. That and Bentham cr*pping out of binning Cunningham for a grapple immediately after he put both teams on a warning.

Would hardly call it a fight - Smith just getting back up to his feet as a barrage of punches come his way.

Touch judge seemed to call it - rubbish decision.

But never mind... it happens.

has been happening all cunningham's career

Leeds clearly lost the game because of that decision. I am disgusted that Bentham did not send off at least 5 saints players.

It's a fair point, the commentators suggestion that because smith pushed Gilmour in the face was deemed the original offence and therefore concede the penalty is bollards, does this now mean that if you are offended against you can then proceed to kick seven shades out of your opponent, safe in the knowledge that ultmately you will still get the penalty awarded to your team?

Was a very poor decision IMO, I bet Mary wished it had gone the other way too

It's not the commentators' suggestion – that was the touchy's report to the ref: first offence – Smith striking out at Gilmour in the tackle.

Shut up you imbecile!!

Not one person has said that is the reason Leeds lost. Leeds because Saints were better on the night!!!

That should be edited to first offence seen / acknowledged by officials.

First offence was clearly Gilmour, hence discussion.

when I was a lad I was taught that the person who retaliated gets penalised. Therefore, Saints penalty was the correct decision.

what about retaliation to retaliation to something you did in the first place? Simple, Gilmour sent off and banned for the rest of the season.

On that basis, it should have been Leeds penalty. i.e. only thing seen was Smith first, Gilmour then throwing punches. Of course it was Gilmour first, but what was seen was Smith.

But then that would be against your agenda..... Or do you now accept it should have been Leeds penalty?

once again Leeds fans twisting the truth, he pulled the top of his shirt, not his hair.

What Leeds fan has said this? The OP isnt even a Leeds fan. In fact the majority of Leeds fans arent even that bothered about the result and have just accepted that we were beaten by the better team on the night. No excuses given or anything.

Aye but for some, they lack the capacity to see beyond that..

Was disappointed in Gilmour. Always rated him and was gutted Wigan let him go.

He's been on the end of some huge hits, been knocked senseless many times (normally for GB) and been targeted many times. However, I've never seen him kick off like that and when he does he chooses Lee Smith, probably half his size and a lot younger.

Whoever you think was to blame, Gilmour started windmilling and I thought better of him.

is a bit uncharacteristic for Gilmour

To be fair, smith pushed him in the face, if he had just pushed back smith would probably have got the first punch in,
not that any of gilmours hit the target.

Penalty should have gone Leeds way for that one.

Cunningham should have been penalised too.
Fair play to Burgess, he looked great for Leeds, and when he got his head smashed into the ground he stood up as if nothing had happened.

Leeds got away with a couple as well though eh?

Possible eye gauge by Gilmour?

Them grapes are really sour arent they

Cunningham did get penalised.

Moral of the story ? Dont think you're the hard man by pushing people in the face because you will get snotted in our sport.

Luckily for Smith. Gilmour dident connect with 1.

and lucky for gilmour as he'd ahve been able to put his feet up for a game or two

I dont think it was luck, my grandma could punch harder than Gilmour!!!!

you think my post was serious?