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| Oh how we chuckled when Leeds hired McDermott.
Who would we rather have now?
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| Quote ="bullsonfire"Oh how we chuckled when Leeds hired McDermott.
Who would we rather have now?'"
TBF, I didn't. In fact I do recall touting him as a suitable replacement for McNamara a while back. However, af, the Quins expert, took great delight in suggesting it was a silly suggestion...........
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| They had very different jobs to do, so you can't make a fair comparison based on what has happened. McDermott was tasked with trying to refresh an ageing, successful side by changing their playing style and introducing some younger talent. It's been a bumpy ride but two finals, and the fact Leeds are a better team to watch now suggest he has done a good job of it so far.
Potter hasn't had success in turning round years of poor recruitment and decline, although McDermott is doing well at Leeds it doesn't automatically follow he'd have been better at Odsal.
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| Quote ="Asim"
Potter hasn't had success in turning round years of poor recruitment and decline, although McDermott is doing well at Leeds it doesn't automatically follow he'd have been better at Odsal.'"
It would have taken some skill do do worse tbf.
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| Two totally different jobs at each club so I don't think it is easy to compare. However you could say that McDermott has over-achieved with the squad at his disposal by getting Leeds to two Finals. Whereas Potter should have at least got us into the 8 this year with the players we had. I thought Potter was the right man for this job this time last year and I still think he can steer us back towards the play offs. I do wonder if he realised the extent of the problems that must be at the club.
As for the game last night.. what a superb game it was. I haven't enjoyed a game so much for quite some time. Congratulations to Leeds they deserved to win the game and I must admit I wasn't too sad to see Wire dumped out. I'm sure they'll squeeze some more value out their cap to get the job done for next year though.
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| I'd rather have Potter, any day of the week!
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| i still believe in MP like I've said give him this season and see what he does with the squad. trust MP!!
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| Totally different situations, but McDermott has obviously overachieved, fair play to Leeds but even the most die hard of Rhino fans were pretty contempt with 5th and making it to a Cup Final. Potter has his role to play in our recovery but i think he failed to realise how big a task he was taking on when he first signed
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| As has been said difficult to compare but McDermott has got the best out of his players when it matters, same can't be said for potter. A few bulls players have shown glimpses of what they can do but for what ever reason this wasn't brought out of them when it mattered
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| Quote ="RAB90"As has been said difficult to compare but McDermott has got the best out of his players when it matters, same can't be said for potter. A few bulls players have shown glimpses of what they can do but for what ever reason this wasn't brought out of them when it mattered'"
Difference is Leeds have a few more stars than us, they showed classic rhino traits last night in scoring tries out of nothing. He's also turned Ryan Bailey into the form prop, something I never thought I'd say. The burrows sub tactic appears to be working well too
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| Quote ="ex Bull Dog"The burrows sub tactic appears to be working well too'"
It's working well at winding up Stevo and Eddie too.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"TBF, I didn't. In fact I do recall touting him as a suitable replacement for McNamara a while back. However, af, the Quins expert, took great delight in suggesting it was a silly suggestion...........'"
Quote ="Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:10 pm mystic eddie"
As for McDermott v McNamara??? Not so sure but TBH, I do not give a stuff HOW McDermott goes, just as long as our own new boss does a job. More interested in my own side I have to say'" .
Your recollection not what it was?
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| Quote ="bullsonfire"Oh how we chuckled when Leeds hired McDermott.
Who would we rather have now?'"
I'm not sure we generally did, and I'm not at all sure we'd "rather" have McDermott than Potter. The chuckles were of the "Agent McDermott" type and mostly good natured, but I don't think McDermott had done much wrong with the resources available to him, and is clearly a leader of men. He hasn't really proved anything at Leeds, and it is not that many weeks ago that the substandards were calling for his head. They have done OK but not exactly had the greatest of seasons in the league. What he has done is get them to peak at the business end. Potter has a better CV than young Bri (at this stage) and is probably more what we need at this stage than McDermott, but they are at this point in their careers both OK coaches without having set the world on fire, Potter at Catalans has the edge. I also don't underestimate the influence of Lowes, even though his coaching abilities have been bagged mercilessly. It may have made more difference to us if we'd had an assistant like Lowes rather than a coach swap.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark".
Your recollection not what it was?
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Nearly ten months of trawling through my posts yet this is the only thing you could get. Poor FA, your standards are slipping.
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| I would love to have Lowes back as an assistant. I agree that he would make a big difference.
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| I'd have to agree with those who say it's an incomparable situation.
McDermott took over a Leeds side who are still very much near the top of their game. If anything, you could argue that Leeds have under performed since he took over.
Potter on the other hand has the unenviable task of rebuilding a SL team almost from the ground up with scant resources and an apathetic fan-base who demand success but can't/won't accept the limitations the team are under.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"
McDermott took over a Leeds side who are still very much near the top of their game. If anything, you could argue that Leeds have under performed since he took over.
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Could you indeed? Go on then.
My arguments are quite simple.....
Ageing team, massive apathy from the fans, first BIG job, hard task to follow in McLennan, no great expectations at the start of the season.
Result - one Wembley appearance and a GF appearance, arguably against the odds. Underperformed? Hmmmmm.
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| McDermott's got a vastly superior squad at his disposal and is at a wealthy club.
Unlike Potter in both regards.
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| McDermott had an already massively established team to play with, potter started out by scratch and had to dispose of unwanted players ie worrincey, sheriffe etc
U cannot compare the two coaches, If potter had the amenities available to him that McDermott has at Leeds we would have been grand final winners.
I think potter will come good I have faith in his ability to turn the current situation around
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| Quote ="Bullseye"McDermott's got a vastly superior squad at his disposal and is at a wealthy club.
Unlike Potter in both regards.'"
Not more superior or wealthy than Warrington however.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"
U cannot compare the two coaches, If potter had the amenities available to him that McDermott has at Leeds we would have been grand final winners.
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Would we now? Nothing like presenting opinion as fact eh?
However, a fact. Potter could not win the GF with a Saints side who were a better team than Leeds of 2011 are. Against inferior competition than he would have faced this year.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Not more superior or wealthy than Warrington however.'"
Meh, but Leeds are a lot nearer to Wire than us in terms of quality players and cash. McDermott showed how good he was with a poor side with no money during his time at Quins.
Have you got Potter in your sights now? Do you think we should've recruited McDermott instead?
I think Potter deserves a chance to turn the club around. He inherited a mess. That's not to say some of his decisions aren't questionable such as not making Menzies contract a higher priority and giving new deals to Platt and Sykes then hardly playing them.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Meh, but Leeds are a lot nearer to Wire than us in terms of quality players and cash. McDermott showed how good he was with a poor side with no money during his time at Quins.
Have you got Potter in your sights now? Do you think we should've recruited McDermott instead?
I think Potter deserves a chance to turn the club around. He inherited a mess. That's not to say some of his decisions aren't questionable such as not making Menzies contract a higher priority and giving new deals to Platt and Sykes then hardly playing them.'"
Not at all. I certainly do not have Potter in my sights whatsoever. I was happy with his appointment and I still believe he can deliver. I just think that people dismissing the achievement of Mr McDermott this season have been blinkered by the rivalry. The Leeds fans themselves were blinkered by the rivalry and have had to eat a great deal of humble pie IMO.
Could he have done better with us? We will never know. Could he have done better with Leeds? Highly doubtful. He has given them a right good chance of unlikely silverware this season. Exceptional performance.
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| As an (almost) aside, was Potter the man who brought the likes of Gaskell, Lomax and Foster through? If so, it instills a lot of confidence for me.
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| Potter has taken on a huge challenge with the Bulls.
I was amazed that someone of his pedigree and reputation did this, given that he might have gone to a club with greater financial clout.
Year 1 was poor and it seems that the players did not perform for him (and the supporters),
or he did not get them to play well, or they were not/lacked....select any or multiple choices of the following options here:- <Skillful/fit/motivated/determined/big/fast/strong/creative/inspirational/tackle maker/tackle buster/off loader/tactical kicker/team leader on the field/team leader off the field
I expect that Potter will address all of the problems.
Looking forward to next season.
yeah! paid for our season tickets
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